Ummm...no, we don't. Can I not state this any clearer: BOTH those QB's you talked about are fair to MID-LING at BEST. 5 years from now I'd wager that one or both will be battling for backup job duties. Harder to say with Moore because he's so raw but... I don't see it. I watched the Ohio St./Indiana game. I was "moderately" impressed with Mendoza, in so far as he looked good in a college game. However, the physical gifts are like 30% of the makeup. This dude appears to have a mental makeup that simply screams, "not an NFL caliber QB." Maybe in a tiny market like Indy he "might" succeed. NY will spit this kid out in less than 5 minutes flat. Did you SEE that post game? My goodness, the NY Post alone would eviscerate that kid. He'll be seeking out leather couches instead of training room tables before his rookie season would be in the books. He's not the first. Tons of kids have come into the NFL with boat loads of physical talent. Heck, if physical talent were all that's to it, Anthony Richardson would already BE in the HoF. That kid drips physical ability. QB, though...it's all in the mind. No, I do not know him personally, but everything I've seen, read or hear about his non-football related self just smacks of a person that is simply not going to be able to handle the scrutiny. Especially in a place like NY. Just an opinion. I've said it before and I'll say it for the last time. NEITHER of these kids are worth blowing major draft capital to move up. IF, and as you are all seeing, that's a BIG IF either "fall" to the Jets I guess it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to go ahead and grab whomever does fall, if they fall, but, if I were the GM, I wouldn't do it. I'd take that draft capital and fill in the MAJOR holes the team has, absolutely EVERYWHERE, but o-line. Moore really is a big ? and most of my opinion is formed by the far more informed info. provided by @Jonathan_Vilma and others who spend the time to investigate.
I was talking to one of my employees this morning, BIG Raiders fan, and even he finally admitted, after many weeks of me pointing it out, that Geno is NOT the problem in Raider land. OMG, that offensive line make the Jets offensive line, from 3 years ago, look like the 90's Cowboys! I'm not sure anyone on their line would qualify as a 3rd stringer on most teams. Geno is getting tore up from the floor up. Couple that with the fact that they basically threw their entire WR corps in the trash. Bowers and Jeanty are their ONLY weapons and, poor Jeanty, see my comment about their o-line! Coupled with a defense that's worse than ours. If the Raiders draft a QB this year vs. O-line it won't matter who they put back there. As far as Cleveland goes, yet another mystery. Seriously, don't they basically have HALF their entire salary cap tied up in ONE position? Hard to say how the draft will shape up but, if I had to guess, one if not BOTH QB's could very easily fall. We'll see.
Don't mean as absolutes, that we will only know after the fact months from now. I even said, based on what I know today, that's what I think, subject to change as more info comes in. Also, the Browns are paying Watson 46 mil next year, not 80. This is still a huge sum, but just to keep to the facts. I think it is clear though Watson is not their future, they effectively admitted it. They might trade Sanders too, they already did that to the two QBs they had. Agreed that we don't know for sure, but I do hope you are right and they will do what doesn't make sense!
His cap hit is $80 million I believe because they asked him to defer some of this years salary to next year to give them a little bit of flexibility. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/21753/deshaun-watson Only point I’m making is that Haslam is a bad finicky owner who interferes. I could see him saying no, we’re not taking another QB this year and adding $12 million the positional payroll. Figure it out with Watson for now.
CAP hit they can maneuver again if they have to, but payroll is 46 mil, it's on the same link you gave, under cash flow. But yeah, I hope that they do try to figure it out with Watson That would be so stupid though.
If they defer some of the cap hit, they’re probably committing to him for longer, no? I mean I don’t have much faith in Deshaun Watson but I was shocked to see he’s still only 31. He was in league MVP a couple years in his career. I wouldn’t be shocked if they try to give it a go with him.
At this point, though, would you think Watson has basically checked out? I've heard a LOT of talking heads, Patty Kirwan for example, who have vocalized they think he's "done." Still matters all the $ though. As you mentioned in another thread, can easily see Haslam saying, "get your ass on the field." lol
He’s way more likely to be done than anything else. But it’s not like this is Johnny Manziel. The guy was being talked about with the Mahomes and Josh Allen’s of the league 5 years ago.
I guess it boils down to how much "want to" is left in his tank. At his age, he conceivably could play another decade considering his body should have fully healed (minutes the leg) and he hasn't taken the constant beating the last 3 or 4 years. IF he wants another contract then how much does he "want to" play is the real question. Dumbest freakin' contract in the history of the NFL and, single handedly, the reason QB contracts have morphed so ridiculously out of control so quickly. Talk about a "poster contract" as to WHY there is a limit on "guaranteed money" in the NFL.
No, that's not how CAP works. This is more for their own management of overall CAP structure, which typically involves players with large contracts, just because that's how the system was designed. This does not have any impact on actual player (whom the CAP is counting against) commitment. The only actual commitment is 46 mil for next year. Beyond that there is nothing. Given his injury history and the fact he was awful for them even before he got hurt, I just doubt they care he was in the MVP discussion in Houston. But if they do, that's amazing news for us! Maybe we can trade up to their pick and get Moore
