The Offensive Line Thread

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How confident are you that the offensive line, as currently constructed, can protect Rodgers?

  1. Extremely Confident

    6 vote(s)
    5.2%
  2. Somewhat Confident

    44 vote(s)
    38.3%
  3. Not so Confident

    45 vote(s)
    39.1%
  4. No Confidence Whatsoever

    20 vote(s)
    17.4%
  1. boozer32

    boozer32 Well-Known Member

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    The Jets had a history of not protecting QBs. Just think Testaverde
     
  2. boozer32

    boozer32 Well-Known Member

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    He's been on the job for a few years and the OL has been on the back burner. Well, once again we are down a QB Game 1. I hope this has Douglas's attention now.
     
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  3. jets4848

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    the ol has gotten the last 2 good quarterbacks we had killed. If mike white doesn’t get injured last year he may still be the qb today and we wouldn’t be sobbing over Aaron Rodger. If the jets don’t make the playoffs this year joe d needs to go. Ironically he is now living and dying and puttting all his hopes and dreams on the line with the bust he drafted 3 seasons ago. Btw what happens if the line continues to stink and Zack gets injured? He was running for his life all of last game, how the hell will he hold up vs Dallas and ne?
     
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  4. JetFanInNE

    JetFanInNE Well-Known Member

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  5. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    The biggest failure of the Douglas on the offensive line is not being able to nail a mid-round starter. You can’t consistently build a good offensive line without grabbing a 3rd round guard or a 4th round tackle and running them through their rookie deal as a quality starter. Even if they don’t start until year two (although not preferable).

    We’ve now spent a first round pick on a tackle, a first round pick in a trade up on a guard, a second round pick on a center, and handed out two top ten positional contracts at the time (Tomlinson is just outside the top 10 now and McGovern was at the time).

    Not only is the line hot garbage right now but we potentially have to replace 3/5 spots next year assuming Tippman steps in somewhere.

    With that in mind you also have to absolutely nail your first round investments there.
     
  6. Jets79

    Jets79 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah…I’m a fan of JD as the overall increase in our roster talent is clearly obvious…

    However, his failure to field an above average OL despite his attention to it (2 first round picks, high contract, etc.) is an absolute killer.

    I’m not saying he needs to go but he needs to fix this OL once and for all this offseason. Period. That has to be the number one priority
     
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  7. cval

    cval Well-Known Member

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    Brown should get better and if Becton stays healthy that will help. Tomlinson may be a lost cause.
     
  8. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    Well Brown certainly can't get worse.
     
  9. dawinner127

    dawinner127 Well-Known Member

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    I'm giving Laken this week before I start screaming for Tippman to get playing time. He was awful monday
     
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  10. ColoradoContrails

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    I want to point out that when Zach was under siege for most of his two years people said it was mostly his fault, despite the mediocre/over the hill talent and injuries. But now, with Aaron having gone down due to that very same level of OL play, people are finally saying "Hey! We really need to fix this OL".

    And yes, Zach's inexperience did factor into the poor OL play, but he should never have been expected to be able to figure out how to overcome those problems as a 1st/2nd year player like a seasoned vet would've been able to do. And even a HOF'er it turns out paid the price.

    It's absolutely mystifying that Douglas hasn't fixed this problem yet. And I'll say it again, as good - great - as Sauce is - they should've taken Iggy with that pick. If you disagree, simply look at last game. Who had the bigger impact? Sauce, or a mediocre OL?
     
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  11. ouchy

    ouchy Well-Known Member

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    I've been pounding the table for 3 years that we have to draft more linemen. Iggy should have been the pick in 22, and after passing on him we should have taken Harrison in 23.

    Even Thibs would have been a better pick at 4 because a great CB can only cover 1 player, while a great DL can disrupt the entire offense. Plus we wouldn't need to use 2 more first rounders on edge. It was clear when we took Sauce JD wasn't rebuilding smartly. Sauce was a luxury pick - the kind of pick you make when you're already a playoff team.
     
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  12. hornblower

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    I don't think fans realize how important it is for an OLine to work together. This group did not play at all together in the pre-season. Now if they can stay healthy improvement will come. At this time they are better at run blocking than pass protection which needs more coordination. Very few teams can handle quality DLines. The QB has to read the rush and get rid of the ball quickly. The Cowboys are hurting on the line and the Jets will pressure their QB. Will see if Zach can handle it. This is the worst possible matchup on the road. Don't panic if the team struggles this week.
     
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  13. Jets79

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    Yeah I seriously thought that OL would be the pick at 4 as well. However, in hindsight I’m not going to complain about getting a top tier shut down corner who made rookie of the year. You can’t ever have enough good players, and in one offseason by drafting Sauce and signing Reed he fixed the CB position. Done.

    Much like when Tanny fixed the OL in one year by drafting Brick and Mangold and signing Faneca and Woody. Boom.

    We now have a top 5 defense, and Sauce was a huge part of that. I can live with it.

    All that being said, I too am frustrated that after 3 or 4 offseasons, and after spending multiple first round picks and a few mid round picks on OL, we are still struggling mightily here.

    Putting aside the QB position, which will hopefully still be Rodgers next year (and I say that knowing he’ll be 40 years old so there is definitely a risk that even Rodgers won’t be the answer for more than a year, and even that is a question coming off his injury), OL HAS to be the TOP priority. We need to get this fixed.
     
  14. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    I feel like the Jets are set at 3 of the 5 positions:

    LT - Becton
    C - Tippman
    RG - Vera-Tucker

    You can laugh at me for Becton but I believe in the guy. I think between having a kid and someone like Rodgers in his corner has made a world of difference.

    JD needs to find a RT and a LG. That shouldn't be too difficult especially since they can draft one of those in 2024. I don't think it's as sore as it seems.
     
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  15. Jets79

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    You have more faith in Becton staying healthy for 17 games than I do, but we’ll see how that plays out… I have no qualms with Becton when he’s ON the field, I just don’t trust that he can STAY on the field…if he has a solid healthy year then that would go a long way. Agree on needing to find a LG…we are not getting our money’s worth with Tomlinson, not even close.

    So yeah I agree we need a LG and a RT, and LT we can say let’s wait and see if Becton can stay healthy

    Can’t see any way Brown stays next year…
     
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  16. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    They could always get the LT from GB (no idea how to spell his name) and keep Becton at RT. Then you just need a guard.
     
  17. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    Anyone know if Broderick Jones got any snaps against the 49ers? He's listed as 2nd string so I'm not sure if he played in that ass kicking.
     
  18. ouchy

    ouchy Well-Known Member

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    If Becton returns next year, it will be because nobody else wanted him. Brown and Tomilson are also gone. Tippman is still unproven. And most importantly, we need more than just decent starters. We need some form of quality depth. We'll need 4-5 decent pickups to be a top 10 offense.
     
  19. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    They can't tag Becton?
     
  20. ouchy

    ouchy Well-Known Member

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    We could've used his 5th year option and kept him for 13 million. The FT for tackles is over 18 million. Even if Becton proved to be a top tackle JD wouldn't do it to save face.
     

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