It really depends on who is available at #34. The addition of Etienne or Williams to this offense could far outweigh whatever lineman was drafted. Everyone's favorite adage "YOU CAN GET A RB ANYWHERE" is hyperbolic at best - and the Jets have tried that method and failed miserably. Joe McNight, Shonn Green, Trent Cannon, Elijah McGuire, Terrance Gannaway. Bilal Powell was the best in the past decade and he was Bilal Powell lol We tried bringing in FAs - Bell, Ivory, Crowell, Tomlinson, Forte - with varying degrees of success ranging from falling miserably to barely above mediocrity IMO. Get a stud RB. It's time. The offense is made for it and it definitely help whoever the QB is.
It's a true crime against football that a 2-14 season goes by and we still have no ides whether Cameron can play guard in the NFL. How the hell is that even possible? That last coach, who shall remain nameless, truly sucked. Based on what I've seen here & thinking about this some more, I think we have to trade for or sign one starting guard & draft the other. I don't think the guy we signed is a starter, just good backup level. So, for me, it's QB at 2, Guard at 23, RB (or possibly WR or CB) at 34. I hear the arguments against taking a RB that high, but the Jets desperately need playmakers & you can get one at RB there.
Wyatt Davis Wyatt Davis 2021 NFL Draft Profile Position: Offensive Guard School: Ohio State Current Year: Redshirt Junior Height: 6-foot-4 Weight: 315 pounds Tony Pauline’s Wyatt Davis Scouting Report Positives: Athletic guard with terrific size and upside. Sets with a wide base, bends his knees, and consistently gets leverage on opponents. Fires off the snap, fluidly gets out to the second level, and is outstanding blocking in motion. Easily slides in space displaying good lateral blocking range, stays square, and keeps his feet moving. Very effective with his hands, properly placing them into defenders and displaying strength in his game. Terrific leader on the offensive line who is intelligent and quickly picks up assignments. Negatives: Does not display a dominant base despite his size. Must learn to finish blocks. Suffered a significant leg injury during the national championship game in January. Analysis: Davis was a dominant lineman for Ohio State the past two seasons and showed continued development in his game. He’s a zone-blocking lineman with outstanding size and needs only to improve his finishing strength to complete his game. The injury suffered during the national title game will push him down draft boards, but once he returns to health, Davis will be a productive starting guard in the NFL. Wyatt Davis Player Profile When you’re a 6-foot-3, 319-pound high school lineman, you’re probably going to stand out. Such was the case for Wyatt Davis, who was considerably larger and stronger than his opponents when playing at St. John Bosco High School in Bellflower, California. With his size, Davis was clearly meant to play offensive line. By his senior season, college teams approached him with the same conclusion. On the recruiting trail, the four-star Davis had scholarship offers from two dozen teams. Those teams included LSU, Alabama, Oklahoma, Florida, Auburn, and Notre Dame. In the outpouring of national acclaim, Davis knew he’d be traveling far from home. In the end, he chose the Ohio State Buckeyes, a team with a long history of NFL talent production. Wyatt Davis’ career as an Ohio State guard Despite his high billing as a prospect, Davis redshirted his first year with the Buckeyes. The Ohio State guard came back in 2018 as a redshirt freshman. In that year, behind starting guards Jonah Jackson and Michal Jordan, Davis served as a rotational lineman and special teams blocker. In that role, he logged almost 350 total snaps. It wasn’t much, but it helped provide a foundation for a stellar two-year starting career. Davis’ ascension to the starting lineup In 2019, Michael Jordan left for the draft, and Davis took his place alongside Jackson. The resulting guard tandem helped pave the way for a historic offensive season in Columbus. In a playoff-worthy season, the Buckeyes put up 87 total touchdowns and over 3,500 total yards on the ground. Additionally, 2019 NFL Draft pick J.K. Dobbins broke the 2,000-yard mark. While the Ohio State offense was laden with talent, their stellar guard play helped that talent thrive. For his 2019 season, Davis garnered recognition as a first-team All-American and a first-team All-Big Ten selection. In 2020, Jackson left, drafted in the third round by the Detroit Lions, and Davis returned as the most illustrious interior blocker on the team. The initial doubt surrounding the Big Ten season caused Davis to opt out at first. However, he soon opted back in when the conference renewed its confidence in a fall season. Davis was stable and steady even amidst the unusual circumstances. He provided the same road-grading impact from years past and again earned first-team All-Big Ten honors. Additionally, Davis received praise as a unanimous All-American, a rare honor bestowed to only college football players of a certain excellence. He will likely officially declare for the 2021 NFL Draft once again, but for now, Ohio State’s campaign is not done. They play the Alabama Crimson Tide in the National Championship. Davis won’t be a statistical leader in that game, but he’ll fulfill a purpose just as crucial. Wyatt Davis’ performance in the National Championship The battle between Wyatt Davis and Christian Barmore was a fun one. Unfortunately, it lasted less than two quarters, as Davis left with a leg injury before the end of the first half. But the two gave each other a challenge on the reps they opposed one another. Barmore’s length and power clearly provided a challenge to Davis, and drove him back on a few reps. But Davis responded fairly well and kept Fields clean for the most part. Davis also proved to be solid in the running game, particularly on Master Teague’s game-tying touchdown early in the second quarter. Davis showed good mobility traveling to the second level, and blocked two players on his way, clearing a lane for Teague to follow. Ohio State’s offensive line had less consistency in the second half, and Davis’ absence likely had something to do with that. Analyzing Wyatt Davis’ 2021 NFL Draft profile Wyatt Davis is a fun player to watch, in part because he packs so much potential energy into a frame that doesn’t have many dominant measurements. I’ve used the term “potential energy” a few times in my draft evaluations, so I’ll explain what it means here. For an offensive lineman, it’s actually quite simple. With how much explosiveness can you move? How much power can you exert? There are, of course, leverage aspects that allow linemen to better channel these traits. But having the potential energy in the first place makes that transfer that much easier. You’ll be pleased to hear that Wyatt Davis has that potential energy. Some teams might like their guards a bit taller, but Davis checks most of the boxes aside from that. He’s a wide, dense blocker with decent length, and he moves well for his size. He has an explosive first step as a run defender, and he actively turns his hips to assure maximum leverage against defenders trying to pierce the line. He also has a great deal of natural power to shell out on each play. Featured | 2021 NFL Mock Draft: Tony Pauline sees quarterbacks in high demand Davis is fairly loose with both his hips and his upper body, and this shows up in pass protection as well. Davis plays with enough balance to maintain blocks even against long-armed rushers. Additionally, when searching for work, his eyes are active, and he has enough fluidity in short spaces to help other blockers in a timely fashion. On top of this, Davis has good hands when blocking one-on-one, and his heavy, powerful punches come with good quickness. Furthermore, his intrinsic leverage allows him to play lower than most. What are the potential holes in Wyatt Davis’ game? Off the top, there aren’t many flaws with Wyatt Davis. There are areas where he can carry more polish in his game. However, that’s to be expected from most young linemen, and Davis displays a functional understanding of leverage, timing, and hand placement, which helps to give him a high floor in this area. It is important that we note Davis’ length again. While Davis has decent length, it’s not an elite wingspan. NFL interior defenders tend to be longer. Thus, those who have greater length than Davis may have a better time getting inside his pads and preventing him from exerting his full power. That said, Davis is a fighter. Rarely is he negated by length alone, as he has the recovery athleticism and balance to compensate. Wyatt Davis’ best fits in the 2021 NFL Draft Wyatt Davis has been one of the best blockers in the country for two years, so in the draft, he’ll be a widely established talent. The talented lineman has minimal holes in his game, and his best traits — his smooth mobility, athleticism, power, and leverage — make him a scheme-diverse starter at offensive guard in the NFL. Depending on how teams view Northwestern’s Rashawn Slater, Davis could have competition at the top guard spot. Nevertheless, as a pure guard, Davis is safely at the top of his position, and he’ll likely be selected within the bounds of Round 1. There’s always a chance a player at a position like guard slips, but Davis’ skill set can clearly provide value to teams early. The Ohio State guard possesses all the necessary tools to come in and flourish on day one.
He is 4th rated guard and I wouldn’t mind if Jets selected him, My only concern is pass blocking, Jets can’t have another weak pass blocking guard, he needs to improve in that regard pretty quickly.
Where do you see the ratings that rank him 4th guard? I can't find jack shit, it is becoming very frustrating this season, one place I used a lot (the draft network) are now hidden behind premium content I thought he was 1st or 2nd guard Dickerson, Davis, Smith?
Vera-tucker, Slater, Smith, Davis. Doesn’t mean he isn’t a good choice, as draft draws closer, description of players become refined. There really aren’t a lot of elite LT this year, there are more Guard and Center hybrids in this draft. The tackles in this years draft other than Sewell excel at either run or pass blocking but not both. I went to Walter Football website.
http://www.tankathon.com/nfl This is a fairly well organized place to start. Their ranking are a little wonky sometimes but they have decent information and stats on most of the top prospects, as well as the overall draft. (They have Davis ranked 3rd).
I didn't mean it in a non-believing way, I am literally struggling to find this shit out this season, not sure what is going on, usually just type things into google and away you go but for a whole manner of stuff it has been really hard work gaining the facts required. I will say though, I just read that Vera-Tucker played left tackle all last season and Slatter is also an OT rather than G Well we will have to see draft night, nobody wants us to overdraft ourselves lol
DeCastro was a first round pick who was ranked in the top 20 players of his draft class. He still struggled his first 3 seasons. Reaching is not the answer. Again, many are graded as round 3 &4 this year, if all are drafted round 2,Douglas should have a ton of talent fall to him.
I didn’t take it that way, I though the same thing about Vera-Tucker, then you see report on him and see how he played Guard which he excelled at and played well at LT for one year. So I’m in no mans land trying to figure out if he is a natural guard or can he make transition to LT at NFL level. I have same concern as you about overdrafting a player for OL that Jets could have gotten later.
Yes, that is the one I have been looking at tbh, which was why I asked @Red Menace which site he was using, also, it has Humphrey ranked 2nd but he is a C and Vera-Tucker 1st and he may end up at LT so that makes Davis 1st G
FWIW, Brick and Mangold took about 3 seasons to become the OL we remember them as. Both had their share of struggles in 2006 and 2007.
The other day I was trying to find out where Maye ranked last season at Safety but in the end, I came away empty-handed, it was only trying to show the predictions for 2020, so then I tried to add 2021 and see what the predictions were then, but nope, it then showed me the draft prospects instead, I tried for half an hour and in the end frustrated threw my monitor into the wall and the mouse out of the window. I think for the first time in a long time the draft has become really significant, we need to have JD nail it or we are fucked for another long period of time, you can talk yourself into all kinds of players at every draft slot we have. So many could be handy but we can't have them all, I could pick 5 or 6 with the #23 alone but we are only getting one of them etc
I don’t know why I thought Decastro was a high second round pick, anyway I amended my original post to reflect that. I do remember watching the draft and hoping Jets drafted him but they snagged Coples instead. I was crushed when I saw that selection. Do you really think there will be quality OL fall to 3rd and 4th? I ask because the draft board NEVER falls as anticipated, and I want Jets to address Guard and CB position through draft.
I remember the pick like it was yesterday. I was pounding the table for DeCastro only to watch us take a defensive tackle.
I think there will be several quality IOL avail in the third round and still a couple in round 4. I did also say I expect we will have an additional second that could be used.
It will be interesting to see what JD will do in terms of OG in the draft. What I really think I'd like to see him do is to take our future RT at #23 or #34, then start him at RG in 2021. Then if they want to replace Fant next year they can move that player to RT and draft a RG, or they can wait until Fant's contract is up. I love Hubbard's speed, but I'm not sure that he's much of a receiver. Watching video of him, he doesn't look all that natural or smooth catching the ball. It could be that he just hasn't had many passes thrown his way in college, however. I think I'd be happier with Kenneth Gainwell or maybe Kylin Hill or Jaret Patterson at RB if their speed is comparable to Hubbard. I know he's probably faster, but I know Gainwell is a better receiver. I'm not sure about Hill or Patterson. I've just started looking at video of those two.
Everything I've seen has Davis ranked ahead of Smith, and most sites I've seen have Slater as an OT, rather than an OG.
The other thing to remember is that at least some of the OGs in the draft will probably not be a good fit for our scheme. I don't think Landon Dickerson, Trey Smith or Deonte Brown have the necessary agility, lateral movement skills to fit our wide zone scheme.
