The NFL doesn't have to do a thing. Vick will never play another game in the NFL because PETA won't allow it to happen and no owner in their right mind will take them on.
What is this now? ESPN News Bottom Line Breaking News- "Vick won't admit to killing dogs or gambling."
Your boss is an asshole. There are such things as second chances. I know a lot of companies that will give convicts a second chance, especially after the first time, which considering where Vick came from, is pretty impressive. If Vick is being treated any differently, its the complete opposite of what you are implying. He is being thrown under the bus for a larger circle than has been reported. I wouldn't be surprised if he is getting strong-armed for not ratting out the entire gambling ring, which is who the feds are really after. Anyway, the point is that you must never have had anyone forgive you, because appear to have no understanding of the Correctional System. If everyone thought like you, half the country would be in jail or on the run.
You're right, the last time I got caught financing part of an illegal interstate gambling ring and getting nailed by federal authorities for my mandatory felony charges, my boss gave me a slap on the wrist and let me come back with no problems at all.
hes screwed now that he admits that he didnt kill dogs or gamble...everyone knows that he did it and he has 3 of his boys going against him in court already pleading guilty and saying that vick killed dogs and he was the one with all the money in this...they know he is lying and hes gonna get caught lying and he will go to prison for a while..if i were him i would just say what happened and take my 3 years in jail PUT IN KELLEN CLEMENS
You got caught too!!!!?? My boss was really cool about it as well since I also had those Nun date rape charges to contend with... he just called me a silly goose and told me to try to not do it again
Trust me when I say that when the feds want to “throw you under the bus” for not rolling…they do just that; it’s not a plea deal for a year. I know a dude who went down in a drug deal – it was the first time he had so much as a speeding ticket at 19 years old; anyway – the feds wanted him to make a deal to rat someone out and he refused and they gave him 12 years like they were handing out Halloween candy. My boss being an asshole would have nothing to do with long standing corporate policy against hiring convicted felons; I don’t think my company is any different than most others.
Wow...I've really been under the impression that there is more to this than what has been reported. Vick was running a kennel. I really don't think he was running the gambling ring. He's not that smart. He wasn't even really running the kennel, he was bankrolling it. I still think the real mastermind behind this whole thing has not been caught, and Vick has enough integrity to not be a rat like his lily-livered slimy sidekicks and creepy cohorts. You do have good evidence to the contrary, but could it be possible that 1 year for one of the faces of the NFL is like 12 years for some schmoe? I have worked for companies that were willing to re-hire convicted felons. Granted that the felony was drug-related and not a violent crime. What Vick did was f'ed and he seems like the kind of guy that thinks he can do whatever he wants. I'd watch his attitude because this whole fiasco hasn't seemed to change that. I know a lot of people from the 7 cities area (VA) and jail doesn't much change them. This makes it all the more implausible that he is truly sorry. Which means that if he truly is, then he really does deserve a second chance. I'm not saying that he should get it automatically, but I wouldn't say never either. Hey, maybe he can take his time off to learn how to throw a football:smile:
I don?t think I ever said that feds treated him any differently ? I said that regardless of what the NFL does to him ? he will likely be treated differently than any other John Q. Public that had to answer to his employer for criminal activity outside of work.
Okay, but I didn't say or imply anything of the sort in the post you quoted. Anyway, I completely agree that he'll be treated differently. This is america. Celebrities are never wrong unless they torture canines, then they're worse than bin Laden. What it really comes down to is that if he is truly remorseful, which I highly doubt, then he deserves a second chance.
Vick's Father Reportedly Told Him to Stop AOL Posted: 2007-08-24 11:21:00 Filed Under: NFL http://sports.aol.com/nfl/story/_a/vicks-father-reportedly-told-him-to-stop/20070824084209990002 ATLANTA (Aug. 24) - Michael Vick's father said he asked his son to give up dogfighting, or to at least put property used in the venture in the names of others to avoid being implicated, according to a report in The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Also Thursday night, a report on ESPN.com cited an unidentified ESPN source saying Vick will not admit to killing dogs or gambling on dogfights when he enters a guilty plea in a Richmond, Va., federal court Monday. ESPN reported that Vick's defense team met with federal attorneys Thursday afternoon to determine the "summary of facts" to which Vick will plead. But ESPN's source said Vick maintains he never killed dogs and never gambled on a dog fight. The source told ESPN the Atlanta Falcons quarterback will plead guilty to the charge of interstate commerce for the purpose of dogfighting. On Monday, Vick agreed to plead guilty Monday in the federal dogfighting case in Richmond. He faces up to five years in prison and the possible end of his football career. Three co-defendants already pleaded guilty and were expected to testify against Vick if the case went to trial. In addition, a Virginia prosecutor is considering bringing state charges against Vick. In The Journal-Constitution report posted on the newspaper's Web site Thursday night, Michael Boddie, who is estranged from Vick and the quarterback's mother, also said some time around 2001 his son staged dogfights in the garage of the family home in Newport News, Va. Boddie told the newspaper Vick kept fighting dogs in the family's backyard, including dogs that were "bit up, chewed up, exhausted." Boddie claimed to have nursed the dogs back to health. The indictment against Vick does not mention the parents' former home in Newport News. In the report, Boddie dismissed the idea that Vick's longtime friends were the main instigators of the dogfighting operation. "I wish people would stop sugarcoating it," Boddie told The Journal-Constitution. "This is Mike's thing. And he knows it ... he likes it, and he has the capital to have a set up like that." The report said Boddie and the Atlanta Falcons quarterback have had a volatile relationship for years and that his son has refused to speak with him directly for the last 2 1/2 half months. Boddie, 45, lives in an apartment his son has paid the rent on for the last three years. Vick, who has a $130 million contract with the Falcons, also gives him a couple of hundred dollars every week or two, the father told the newspaper. In the report, Boddie also said he asked Vick for $1 million, spread out over 12 years, Vick declined, the father said. Recently, Boddie asked Vick, through an assistant, for $700,000 to live on.
Vick admits dog killing, conspiracy Story Highlights Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick files guilty plea http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/08/24/michael.vick/index.html?eref=rss_topstories (CNN) -- NFL star Michael Vick has admitted that he and two co-conspirators killed dogs that did not fight well in papers filed Friday with a federal court in Virginia. NFL star Michael Vick is set to appear in court Monday. A judge will have the final say on a plea deal. Vick said he would plead guilty to one count of "Conspiracy to Travel in Interstate Commerce in Aid of Unlawful Activities and to Sponsor a Dog in an Animal Fighting Venture" in a plea agreement filed at U.S. District Court in Richmond, Virginia. The charge is punishable by up to five years in prison, a $250,000 fine, "full restitution, a special assessment and 3 years of supervised release," the plea deal said. Federal prosecutors agreed to ask for the low end of the sentencing guidelines. "The defendant will plead guilty because the defendant is in fact guilty of the charged offense," the plea agreement said. Watch how Vick was involved ? In an additional summary of facts, signed by Vick and filed with the agreement, Vick admitted buying pit bulls and the property used for training and fighting the dogs but the statement said he did not bet on the fights or receive any of the money won. "Most of the 'Bad Newz Kennels' operations and gambling monies were provided by Vick," the official summary of facts said. Gambling wins were generally split between co-conspirators Tony Taylor, Quanis Phillips and sometimes Purnell Peace, it continued. "Vick did not gamble by placing side bets on any of the fights. Vick did not receive any of the proceeds from the purses that were won by 'Bad Newz Kennels.' " Vick also agreed that "collective efforts" by him and two others caused the deaths of at least six dogs. Around April, Vick, Peace and Phillips tested some dogs in fighting sessions at Vick's property in Virginia, the statement said. "Peace, Phillips and Vick agreed to the killing of approximately 6-8 dogs that did not perform well in 'testing' sessions at 1915 Moonlight Road and all of those dogs were killed by various methods, including hanging and drowning. "Vick agrees and stipulates that these dogs all died as a result of the collective efforts of Peace, Phillips and Vick," the summary said. Peace, 35, of Virginia Beach, Virginia; Phillips, 28, of Atlanta, Georgia; and Taylor, 34, of Hampton, Virginia, already have accepted agreements to plead guilty in exchange for reduced sentences. Vick, 27, is scheduled to appear Monday in court, where he is expected to plead guilty before a judge. See a timeline of the case against Vick ? The judge in the case will have the final say over the plea agreement. The federal case against Vick focused on the interstate conspiracy, but Vick's admission that he was involved in the killing of dogs could lead to local charges, according to CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin. "It sometimes happens -- not often -- that the state will follow a federal prosecution by charging its own crimes for exactly the same behavior," Toobin said Friday. "The risk for Vick is, if he makes admissions in his federal guilty plea, the state of Virginia could say, 'Hey, look, you admitted violating Virginia state law as well. We're going to introduce that against you and charge you in our court.' " In the plea deal, Vick agreed to cooperate with investigators and provide all information he may have on any criminal activity and to testify if necessary. Vick also agreed to turn over any documents he has and to submit to polygraph tests. Vick agreed to "make restitution for the full amount of the costs associated" with the dogs that are being held by the government. "Such costs may include, but are not limited to, all costs associated with the care of the dogs involved in that case, including if necessary, the long-term care and/or the humane euthanasia of some or all of those animals." Prosecutors, with the support of animal rights activists, have asked for permission to euthanize the dogs. But the dogs could serve as important evidence in the cases against Vick and his admitted co-conspirators. Judge Henry E. Hudson issued an order Thursday telling the U.S. Marshals Service to "arrest and seize the defendant property, and use discretion and whatever means appropriate to protect and maintain said defendant property." Both the judge's order and Vick's filing refer to "approximately" 53 pit bull dogs. After Vick's indictment last month, National Football League Commissioner Roger Goodell ordered the quarterback not to report to the Falcons training camp, and the league is reviewing the case. Atlanta Falcons owner Arthur Blank told the NFL Network on Monday he could not speculate on Vick's future as a Falcon, at least not until he had seen "a statement of facts" in the case.
Vick suspended indefinitely. You will never ever see him in a NFL uniform again. Count on it. http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10316390
Ahh, the rich man's crime. In a master stroke of brilliance, his lawyers got the charge to be conspiracy. That means just that-a conspiracy. This means he never actually admits to any of the actions he allegedly performed. This sets great legal precedent for any future charges brought against him by any other governing body (be it NFL or the gov). He admits involvement in crime, not to a particular crime thereby allowing him to deny any further accusation. It means he was really bad, but you don't know what he did. You gotta love the legal system.
As much as I like Goodell, somehow I doubt this. I think it depends on the state of the league once Vick gets out of the pen and tries to smooth-talk the commish into lifting the suspension.
