The media is not fair to Geno Smith

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  1. jdon

    jdon Well-Known Member

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    our defense beat Tom Brady--they beat him half to death.
     
  2. Scoop24

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    i agree with this. but looking forward theres a very good chance you don't get Winston or Mariotta . so who out there would be better option then Geno? Sanchez,Hoyer,Bradford, Fitzpatrick cause these are the FA type Qbs out there .. which imo Gives Geno a legit shot to start this year .
     
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    Ahhhh you're right. I forgot our defense scored 21 points.
     
  4. JStokes

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    Ahhh one note Johnny.

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  5. JStokes

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    When the season was over, when the bags were packed, when the Dolphins were thinking about their tee times.

    When the season still mattered, he put up a 0.0. You don't put one of those up if you have tools and talent.

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  6. pclfan

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    Rex, Lee and Marty were not responsible for the bad Geno (which was most of the time). He got decent coaching, not sure about a good game plan, but it wasn't the reason he was most of the time terrible. I'd just hate to waste those bad games on the learning curve because there were times he wasn't bad esp. the last five games of 2014. Sometimes a Qb has to sink to the bottom before he learns how to play the position. So I don't throw him out yet.
     
  7. jilozzo

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    Sorry but he is a professional athlete albeit in his young 20's and obviously not mature yet - veteran fans like myself cant stomach to hear him continue the same company line after one of his many bad games. our patience with this club is razor thin in part because of the lengthy and soap opera like team history but recent events as well. IMO every young player, on any pro team - ESPECIALLY A QB - needs to be made aware of a teams history and be educated on important turning points....so they dont give the fans the same delusional BS over and over....
    i have zero confidence in smith going forward but i refrain from bashing. it is what it is and if u think this year was negative wait until year 3 when there is likely minimal to no improvement in his play.
     
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    nice avi - but that shmuck does women a disservice
     
  9. JStokes

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    And can we please stop with the "he's only 23" nonsense. He turned 24 last year and he'll be 25 second month of this upcoming 2015 season.

    Not old by any standards--but he's no longer 23.

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  10. jetsons

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    the genome SUCKS!!!
     
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    nyjetsknicks247 Well-Known Member

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    Big Ben and Wilson deserve to be on that list

    From what you have seen from Geno you would say he can develop into a SB winning qb? I don't see it
     
  12. pclfan

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    Geno in 2015 could be a major factor for the Jets or a non-issue. It all depends if he's in their plans. Most of us assume he'll be on the team. If they draft Mariota they might still sign a vet FA Qb to start and that could be it for Geno here. They would then try to get something for him. His market value at this time is probably a conditional upper round draft pick. Like a 7th. If they don't draft anyone and sign a vet then if a guy like Moore starts Geno might not see the field. So the only way he is going to be a factor is if he plays. And nobody knows the outcome of that.
     
  13. Gunther

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    And Roethlesberger
     
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    Fans are fools. They think what the press tells them to think. College football does not produce enough quality caliber quarterbacks.
     
  15. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    Has anyone else noticed that when Geno started to cut down on the turnovers late in the season he
    Eli Manning and Phillip Rivers don't suck either.

    For that matter Andrew Luck, Matt Ryan, and Joe Flacco are pretty good too.
     
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    The only reason he had a zero rating in the first Buffalo game was because he was pulled right after the start of the game. Not saying the pull wasn't warranted or anything, but had he stayed in, surely even you, who hate him so much, would agree he would finish with some normal terrible rating, like in the 30s let's say. So guess who else finished with a rating in the 30s against that Buffalo defense? Aaron Rodgers.

    Also, in your earlier post in this thread, you said Geno's late season improvement was skewed by the final Miami game. Well, in my opinion, that goes both ways, because in the first Miami game, which was also in the midst of that late season sequence, the Jets' playcalling effectively took the ball out of Geno's hands, even though he played well before and after that game, and gave him a 35 QB Rating for the game, skewing his late season numbers downwards.
     
  18. JStokes

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    Had he stayed in he might have had the first ever negative QB rating.

    Dude, he got a zero because Rex could NOT leave him in the game.

    You have no idea what he would have done because it he could no longer be on the filed.

    He got a zero because he deserved a zero.

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  19. john law

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    Using the "eye test", I'd say the improvement was nominal. He also had fewer pass attempts which partially explains the fewer int's. He also had better receivers in '14 like Decker, Harvin
    Amaro.
     
  20. GangGreenBlues

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    That wasn't about what Geno deserved, the way he started he did deserve a zero rating and being pulled. But the point was that if Geno stays the rest of the game, there is no way he finishes with a zero rating because of how QB Rating is calculated. He put up some good numbers against the same Buffalo D a few weeks later, if you recall. So even if he had more turnovers the rest of the way, as long as he completed some passes, got some yardage, etc, the rating would go up. And then he would approach the rating Rodgers had against Buffalo, a guy who most would claim does have tools and talent.
     

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