The media is not fair to Geno Smith

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  1. nyjetsknicks247

    nyjetsknicks247 Well-Known Member

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    Well in wouldn't put him in the same category as JaMarcus either
     
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    True. I just see post nfl Geno getting real fat, not going to prison.
     
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    Ok...and that proves, what exactly? Bridgewater may not look as good next year. A QB's play isn't always linear.

    And Smith looked pretty good the last quarter of the season too, you know, once the OL played better and the Jets actually had credible WR targets on the field most of the time.

    Look, I get it, you don't like Geno Smith and feel he wasn't as good as you would have liked. But to ignore the factors that influence his play--and how well or poorly most QBs play at that stage in their development--makes your opinion of him less reasonable.
     
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    Geno will have a shot to beat whom ever they Jets bring in via FA and the draft. New HC/OC - new system. He won't, but he will have the opportunity to prove, again, that he's not a starter. It's a level playing field now.
     
  5. nyjetsknicks247

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    I don't ignore the factors

    I agree he hasn't had great talent to play with but he also makes dumbass plays that have nothing to do with talent around him

    He'll have his chance agai next year Wil most likley more talent so we'll see what happens......it's not like if he starts imma be hoping for him to fail but nothing g he has shown up to this points proves that he will ever be more then mediocre
     
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    A reasonable opinion that somewhat separates yours from his most ardent detractors, who ARE hoping he fails if for no other reason than they've invested so much animus on him.

    Smith's first season wasn't so much "he hasn't had great talent to play with..." as much as having "arguably the worst talent in the NFL, both on the OL and at the receiver positions."

    But, no, that doesn't excuse bonehead plays, it just adds to the opportunity to make them.

    What is critical is for Smith to eliminate the unforced errors, which would come from maturity. If he can do that, and there's no guarantee he can, Smith can become an above-average QB, assuming there is sustained improvement in the play and caliber of his supporting cast.
     
  7. JStokes

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    Show me your "facts" or "evidence" of a shittier QB who turned out elite.

    I mean not Blaine Gabbert Elite.

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  8. JStokes

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    This is right out of the Talking Points for Geno Ball Lickers.

    Well done.

    What next? We just need to surround him with MORE talent and dumb down the playbook even MORE?

    Great plan.

    How about we just get a smart QB?

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    Alex Smith was pretty bad but then again he never turned out to be an elite qb but it would be a miracle if geno even turned out like Alex
     
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    And your post is straight out of the Talking Points for homos.
    I mean, seriously, are jonesing for Smith's balls or what?
     
  11. JStokes

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    Nice let's find MORE shitty QBs to support propping a flawed Geno up.

    There has to be more shitty QBs to throw out there.

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    You've done a great job defending your position with stats and evidence. And NOT excuses.

    There is only one reason left that you're defending him and it has nothing to do with football.

    Well done.

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    Smith's first-year stats are no worse than, say, Peyton Manning's. His second year stats no worse than Troy Aikman's.
     
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    I see, so I'm defending him because he's Black. I get it.
    I mean, at least be man enough to say it without hinting.

    Be a man: tell me I'm racistly defending the black guy from justified criticism. I defended Sanchez because he was Mexican.

    No, it's got nothing to do with the utter dreck surrounding these minority QBs for the majority of three consecutive seasons.

    I'd defend Chad Pennington if he were criticized in the manner Smith is. But, let's face it, he never would be...
     
  15. JStokes

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    Moronic. Teddy's rookie year was 10x Geno's awful rookie year. If you took his balls out of your mouth you'd realize that.

    Teddy's football IQ dwarfs your boys Geno's.

    Teddy's progression will be geometric. Geno's regression will continue to be linear.

    So you're one of those sycophants that buys into the mirage of "those last 4 games".

    Just like the mirage of "those last 4 games" of 2013.

    Too funny.

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    Who ISN'T flawed? That's why you need actual talent around QBs. Not practice squad receivers and poorly rated OGs.

    I mean, you'll lick the balls of the OL and WRs and a defense that created all of 15 TOs last year. But we know why you hate Geno Smith. And it ain't got nothing to do with his potential.
     
  17. JStokes

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    Ohhhh the BLACK CARD!!

    Nice red herring!!

    So it's all about race Hahahahaha.

    That's why we want a new QB.

    Not because he's thrown 7 pick 6s in 2 years and leads the league in turnovers in that time? For throwing up a zero point zero and having TWO of the worst 4 game stretches in NFL history.

    It's because he's BLACK!!

    Yeah that's it!

    What a douchebag.

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  18. JStokes

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    Teddy Bridgewater.

    Yeah that's right.

    A BLACK quarterback. The guy I've wanted for 3 years. Before we even drafted that moron Geno-the object of your affection.

    You playing the race card is pathetic. You're a piece of shit for pulling it.

    I don't care what color Geno is.

    The QB I've wanted for 3 years is black.

    Go fuck yourself you racist jackass.

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  19. JStokes

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    No you racist jackass.

    You're defending him because you're a Geno ball licker.

    This has nothing to do with race.

    That came from YOU you racist jackass.

    There is no black or white anymore.

    Get over yourself.

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    It has nothing to do with talent anymore, it must be because Geno's black. By not surrounding Geno with 10 pro bowlers we have set him up for failure, because he's black. Not ignoring his lack of development? Racist. Stokes only wants us to draft Marcus Mariota because he's half white. Honest to god half aryan. Look at Marcus with his blond hair and blue eyes. The true picture of white QB superiority.
     
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