The Lions trajectory

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  1. The_Darksider

    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    I think the Jets are entering their very own trajectory. Last year at this time, they were a playoff hopeful with a solid young roster, cap room, and for the first time in my memory (43 years as a fan) a solidly built foundation for continued growth and hopefully sustained success. "Success" being defined as winning records, playoff appearances, and hopefully more. I've been a fan way long too long to expect more, but hope? Sure.

    There weren't a lot of bad free agent contracts that would hamstring the team long term, and Douglas, despite his stubbornness about never once trying to provide his young QB with help or competition or both, was smart with the cap, put a premium on youth, and always accumulated draft picks instead of the other way around.

    Now, exactly a year later in terms of number of games played, they are spiraling out of control after an ill-advised demolition of the that foundation. They went for age, they overpaid an old QB and brought in some of his handpicked guys, traded draft picks away, and screwed up the cap royally.

    Heading into next year, the Jets will have a lot of holes to fill, very little cap room with which to fill them, fewer draft picks, and what is extremely likely to be a lame duck GM and coach. Contracts aside, Rodgers has next year and those guys are on his timeline, not their own regardless of their contract status.

    It gets worse.

    The lame duck GM will have no reason at all to worry about 2025 or beyond. He made it clear through the press that he'll be going after Devante Adams, and next year will be an all in year for real. Those of you familiar with hold 'em poker, the Jets are going all in before the flop and hoping to catch what they need along the way.

    Throw in the fact that the young stars (GWilson, Hall , Sauce) are exceedingly likely to walk or demand trades as soon as they possibly can (luckily we'll have control for a couple of years) and at best you've got a morale issue and realistically you've got an exodus.

    The franchise continues to look worse and worse for prospectiva free agents and management hopefuls, and there's a phenomenal chance that the Jets are back to the talentless shell that it was a couple of years ago by 2025 - where we'll certainly start the process all over again.

    With Woody Johnson to spearhead the search.

    We're in good hands, guys. Don't fret.
     
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  2. nevbeats319

    nevbeats319 Well-Known Member

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    Longest rebuild in history. Increase of 1-2 wins per year is progress
     
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  3. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Yeah we’ve really screwed the pooch on building a sustained winner. There’s no doubt in my mind one of Sauce, GW or Breece hold out and request a trade. Breece might even do it this off-season with his frustration. As annoyed as Sauce and GW probably are, they’re still putting numbers on the board and will both get paid here or elsewhere.

    Breece plays a position where you need to produce like a megastar to get a big contract and no one’s giving someone whose never rushed for even a thousand yards a big deal.
     
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  4. The_Darksider

    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    Agree all around except for one minor detail. I think Garrett Wilson, even though he's producing somewhat, is superstar material. He just has that "it" factor. Or he did, he seems to have fallen into the same disgusting Jets broth now. But he's a winner. Another year of him getting crushed, losing focus because the offense is bad, and not producing like an elite receiver and he will be out the door as well. Agree completely on Breece because of the position.

    No offensive star quality player is going to want to be here.
     
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  5. Pepsiguy5

    Pepsiguy5 Well-Known Member

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    Sheezus.

    This is like a Peter Zeihan breakdown of this train wreck.

    As bad as things look right now I personally don't think ALL is lost but I'm pretty concerned and the Jets are going to need some off season magic before 2024 gets here. I feel like their leadership has been OK and actually fairly encouraging outside of the one glaring catastrophic bad mistake of wasting the golden ticket to turn around the whole franchise on Zach Wilson. The damage of that has radiated out like spider cracks on a broken windshield. And then I'm not sure I can ever remember a worse timed double-down (or maybe even triple-down) on a clear failure ever in professional sports.

    Can't really argue too much though right now. Its pretty damn bad.
     
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  6. mezzavo

    mezzavo Well-Known Member

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    Everyone better "enjoy" this year because, when Rodgers goes down in 2024, then you are really going to see bad. With our current cap situation we'll be lucky to sign our meager draft and get ONE decent FA. The all in SB year was this one. 2024 will see this team take a step back, especially at the QB position, and the team will be drafting at 1 or 2 yet again. Sorry folks, but that window slammed shut with Rodgers Achilles THIS year.
     
  7. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    yeah the cap situation is rough. We'll have to shed talent on Defense to fix the offense. We'd probably have to cut mosley and hope sherwood is ready, let huff walk or trade JFM, restructure Q. plus we'll be cutting uzo most likely. that should make enough to sign an OT and WR. then it's banking on the draft being really good. will need to find gems for sure. OT has to be our 1st round pick. after that all we have is a 3rd, 2 4ths, and a 6th
     

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