8-10 games is barometer for keeping your job. Man Jets fans expectations are so low. How bout we try for playoffs, try and win the division, Super Bowl should be the goal every year. Otherwise why are you paying top dollar for tickets to be losers again. Bowles should be gone this year. The Giants cut bait fired the coach and GM. Got a new GM in place already and the season isn't even over. Jets should try some of that.
O'Brien checks off the under 50 and never won categories. He's also on the offensive side of the ball so he might fix the Jets problems on that side of the ball.
O’Brien would be top of the list as far as I’m concerned. Unfortunately I think we’re about to see an O’Brien/Darnold pairing in the other lockerroom at Met Life.
Here's a list, albeit 4 years old and some outdated info, of some names who could be good GM candidates. I think some of these names could also be good President of Football Operations candidates and call all the shots in the Jets FO. Enough with the old retreads, the Jets need to go after some new blood and most of these guys have years of experience in an NFL front office. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...e-personnel-men-that-will-be-general-managers
I disagree with your last sentence. Why stick with someone who you know is mediocre and not the answer? That's giving up and not even trying. It also meets one of the definitions of insanity (Keep doing the same thing and expecting a different result). At least with different coaches, you're trying to get better, you're not continuing to do the same things and expecting or hoping that miraculously the outcome will be different. Every time you hire a new HC, there's hope. If you stick with someone you know is mediocre and not the answer, there is NO hope.
Interesting article. Especially of note is that he mentioned Brian Gardner of the Houston Texans as a GM candidate, but NOT Mac. Gutekunst was the only guy on that list that I think should even be considered for President of Football Operations. I think it needs to be someone older, with more experience. IMO the Jets blew the perfect opportunity to hire their Sr. VP or Team President to run the football operation when John Dorsey was available this season, and they let him go to Cleveland.
I disagree. Players develop much better in a consistent system, even if the coach isn't putting them in a position to succeed, can't call the right plays, and can't manage the clock. Trying to develop young players while switching head coaches very three years and switching coordinators twice under every head coach is virtually impossible. Yeah, coaching changes bring a lot of hope for FANS, but it doesn't give much hope to PLAYERS who are trying to master their craft only to find it's a constantly moving target.
There's actually a few names I like in addition to Dorsey. Polk from Atlanta has a good background. Also Omar Khan from the Steelers who we talked to the last time around. If the Jets want one of these smart guys from a stable organization then they need to open the purse strings and make an offer. I don't think the Johnson braintrust has the foresight or understanding to go hire one of these guys. That's the problem. This issue goes to the top and they just don't get it.
I found the article I referenced earlier. It is: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ow-about-the-nfls-coaching-carousel/?utm_term Everything you need to know about the NFL’s coaching carousel By Mark Maske December 29 at 9:39 AM The firing-and-hiring season for NFL head coaches gets underway in earnest very soon, perhaps as early as Sunday night once the season ends for several disappointing teams. One NFL coach has already been fired this season — Ben McAdoo by the New York Giants. Plenty more activity is expected by early next week, with some within the sport saying they expect there to be eight to 10 head coaching vacancies league-wide. There could be even more, of course, if there is a surprise move or two. Here is a look at the coaches most likely to be making exits, as well as the top candidates to fill some of the upcoming vacancies. We’ll be adding the latest news and coaching rumors to the top throughout the weekend and beyond. You can jump down to the candidates by using the nav link below. Hot seat index Expected to be gone Chuck Pagano, Colts: Pagano didn’t have much of a chance this season without the injured Andrew Luckand without a viable Plan B at quarterback until the Jacoby Brissett trade was made. But owner Jim Irsay kept Pagano after two straight 8-8 seasons. A third straight non-winning season is likely to prompt Irsay to make a coaching move one year after he changed general managers. Pagano’s chat with reporters Wednesday didn’t exactly do anything to douse the speculation. “It’s the last rodeo, is what I told [the players],” Pagano said, per the Colts’ website. “I had a picture of a guy on a bucking bronco with the spurs on it. It’s our last ride together. No team that I’ve ever been a part of has ever been the same, regardless of the record. That’s just the National Football League. This is our last rodeo together. We’re going to enjoy and embrace every single second of it and get obsessed with completion. That’s what successful people do – they get obsessed with completion. We need to complete this season. No better way than to go out with a win.” Marvin Lewis, Bengals: There has been speculation that Lewis and the Bengals will agree to part ways. If that happens, Lewis could end up in a front office somewhere, maybe even in Cincinnati. The Bengals could try to land one of Lewis’s former offensive coordinators who left to become head coaches, the Redskins’ Jay Gruden or the Browns’ Hue Jackson, or they could promote defensive coordinator Paul Guenther. John Fox, Bears: The Bears are 14-33 under Fox as he finishes his third season in Chicago. It simply isn’t working. It’s time for the Bears to find someone else to oversee the development of prized young quarterback Mitchell Trubisky. Dirk Koetter, Buccaneers: The Buccaneers are among the league’s most disappointing teams, and it has been reported that Koetter and quarterback Jameis Winston have a strained relationship. There already has been talk about the franchise trying to lure its former Super Bowl-winning coach, Jon Gruden, out of ESPN’s “Monday Night Football” broadcasting booth. Could go either way Jack Del Rio, Raiders: The Raiders are headed to Las Vegas but believed they had a team capable of vying for a Super Bowl title before leaving Oakland. They lured running back Marshawn Lynch out of retirement to play for his hometown team and thought they’d build on last season’s success with quarterback Derek Carr back in the lineup. But very little has gone right, and Monday night’s ugly loss in Philadelphia might have been the final indignity that could prompt owner Mark Davis to make a move. Vance Joseph, Broncos: Could it be one-and-done for Joseph in Denver? It certainly wasn’t a promising sign when front office executive John Elway called the team soft. It has been a swift descent for the Broncos in the two seasons since they won the Super Bowl in Peyton Manning’s farewell, and Elway clearly deserves his share of the blame for failing to put a quarterback in place to succeed Manning. But Elway isn’t going to fire himself, and he might want to start over with a new coach along with a new quarterback. Bill O’Brien, Texans: O’Brien is well regarded within the league. He had three straight 9-7 seasons in Houston before this season’s unraveling, and injuries to J.J. Watt, Whitney Mercilus and Deshaun Watson were a major factor. But don’t forget that O’Brien chose Tom Savage, not Watson, to be the Texans’ season-opening starter at quarterback. The Texans must do whatever they believe is best for Watson’s continued development. Hue Jackson, Browns: Owner Jimmy Haslam has said that Jackson will be retained for next season. But the Browns are 1-30 since the start of last season. They could complete a winless season Sunday. What if John Dorsey, the new GM hired by Haslam, lobbies for a new coach? The possibility that Cincinnati could be a landing spot for Jackson further complicates any internal politics that might be at work in Cleveland. Jim Caldwell, Lions: Caldwell took the Lions to the playoffs last season. A 9-7 record this season remains a possibility. That should be enough, it would seem, for Caldwell to stay. But it does not appear to be a certainty, and this week the MMQB’s Albert Breer reported that “rumblings have held for a few weeks that Jim Caldwell would be in trouble if he missed the playoffs.” Well, the Lions will not be going to the playoffs. Jason Garrett, Cowboys: Owner Jerry Jones said this week that he’s not considering a coaching change. Will that remain the case following Sunday’s season finale in Philadelphia? A season that began with seemingly legitimate Super Bowl aspirations ends with the Cowboys missing the playoffs. Jones seems to be directing most of his ire at the league and at NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell for the six-game suspension of Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliott under the personal conduct policy. But does Garrett deserve some of that blame?
Cont'd Jay Gruden, Redskins: Gruden’s contract runs through 2020, and he has done reasonably well this season to keep the Redskins within a game of .500 entering Sunday’s finale against the Giants at MetLife Stadium. Gruden probably should stay. But there’s always that “you never know” element at this time of the year, particularly with the Redskins’ traditional impatience with coaches. What if the Redskins don’t have to pay the remainder of Gruden’s contract because he lands immediately in Cincinnati? What if the Bengals were willing to sweeten the deal just a bit by throwing in, say, a draft choice? Where would Gruden be better off: remaining in Washington, probably without Kirk Cousins at quarterback, or going back to Cincinnati and working with Andy Dalton or A.J. McCarron at quarterback, with Guenther as his defensive coordinator and maybe with Lewis in the front office? Should be fine, unless … Mike Mularkey, Titans: All seemed well with the Titans’ rebuilding plan until they lost the last three games to put their playoff chances in peril. Quarterback Marcus Mariota has taken a step backward in his third season with just 12 touchdown passes to go along with 15 interceptions. The Titans still can get into the AFC playoffs as a wild card with a victory Sunday over the Jaguars or losses by both the Bills and Los Angeles Chargers. But if they lose and miss the playoffs, will the Titans still believe they’re headed in the right direction under Mularkey? John Harbaugh, Ravens: If the Ravens beat the Bengals on Sunday in Baltimore, they return to the AFC playoffs after a two-season absence. It would be the team’s seventh trip to the postseason in 10 seasons under Harbaugh, and pressure would ease on Harbaugh and quarterback Joe Flacco. But a defeat to the Bengals and a third straight non-playoff season, particularly under such disappointing circumstances, could turn up the heat on Harbaugh and Flacco. The coaches who get to decide for themselves Bruce Arians, Cardinals: There has been speculation this week that Arians will stay with the Cardinals. There has been speculation this week that Arians will leave the Cardinals. He has not said for certain, but he will have to make his intentions known soon. Pete Carroll, Seahawks: The Seahawks won in improbable fashion Sunday in Dallas, with more penalty yards than total offense, in a playoff elimination game and still have postseason possibilities this weekend. They must beat the Cardinals and hope the Falcons lose to the Panthers. Either way, the Seahawks are likely to undergo an offseason roster retooling that could involve defensive standouts Richard Sherman, Kam Chancellor, Earl Thomas, Cliff Avril and Michael Bennett. If the Seahawks no longer resemble the Seahawks as everyone has come to know them, would Carroll want to stay around to be involved in such an organizational reset? Not going anywhere Todd Bowles, Jets: The Jets’ five victories are roughly five more than many observers expected them to manage this season, and that apparently was plenty good enough: On Friday, Bowles and General Manager Mike Maccagnan had their contracts extended, the Jets announced. Top coaching candidates So, clearly, the Giants soon will have plenty of company in looking for a new head coach. A just-fired coach or two could be recycled immediately. But there is a sizable group of head coaching candidates from among NFL assistants, prominent college coaches and former Super Bowl winners turned broadcasters. Here’s a rundown … NFL assistant coaches Josh McDaniels, Patriots offensive coordinator: He will get a head coaching job somewhere if he wants one. The question, as always: Does he want one now? Some within the league believe he could go somewhere with Patriots executive Nick Caserio or ESPN analyst Louis Riddick as his general manager. Riddick already has interviewed for the Giants’ GM vacancy, although former Panthers general manager Dave Gettleman is regarded by many as the favorite there. [Is it time for Josh McDaniels to get another NFL head coaching opportunity? That’s pretty much up to him] Teryl Austin, Lions defensive coordinator: Austin’s time to be a head coach perhaps has come, and the Lions being out of the playoffs actually could work in his favor. He can focus completely on pursuing a head coaching job. Steve Wilks, Panthers defensive coordinator: Wilks is regarded as a rising star within the coaching ranks. But he has been a coordinator for only one season, having been elevated when Sean McDermott left Carolina for the head coaching job in Buffalo.
cont'd Frank Reich, Eagles offensive coordinator: The former NFL quarterback helped to turn second-year quarterback Carson Wentz into a league MVP candidate before his injury and has played a role in the Eagles’ rise to the top seed in the NFC playoffs. Dave Toub, Chiefs special teams coordinator: Special teams coaches usually don’t receive much head coaching consideration. But Toub is a notable exception. He is regarded within the league as a brilliant coach and as a head coach in waiting. It wouldn’t be a major surprise within the league if he lands a head coaching job during this hiring cycle. Matt Patricia, Patriots defensive coordinator: He gets plenty of attention for being an actual rocket scientist, with a degree in aeronautical engineering. But he’s also a very good defensive coordinator. The issue, as always, in New England is: To what degree is it Matt Patricia’s defense and to what degree is it Bill Belichick’s? But some NFL team undoubtedly will be willing to find out just how good Patricia is within the next few years. Breer says he expects the Lions to look him up should they fire Caldwell. Jim Schwartz, Eagles defensive coordinator: The former Lions coach has put together a very good defense in Philadelphia and deserves his share of the credit for what the Eagles have accomplished. Mike Vrabel, Texans defensive coordinator: The former NFL linebacker will be a head coach someday, whether it’s this offseason or in the near future. Mike Smith, Buccaneers defensive coordinator: The former coach of the Falcons could receive strong consideration by the Giants. Pat Shurmur, Vikings offensive coordinator: Helping to turn Case Keenum from a journeyman quarterback into a league MVP candidate has to count for something, doesn’t it? Is that enough for teams to put aside Shurmur’s 9-23 record as head coach of the Browns in 2011 and 2012? (Actually, nine victories in two seasons with the Browns might count as a major accomplishment.) In fact, sources tell Chris Tomassonof the Pioneer Press that Shurmur will be the most coveted of the offensive-oriented assistants this offseason. Todd Haley, Steelers offensive coordinator: He’s done well in Pittsburgh. But, then again, he probably should do well with Ben Roethlisberger, Le’Veon Bell and Antonio Brown. There again are reports of Haley being at odds with Roethlisberger. And his 19-26 record as the Chiefs’ head coach could work against him. Harold Goodwin, Cardinals offensive coordinator: Goodwin could be a candidate to succeed Arians in Arizona if Arians walks away. Jim Bob Cooter, Lions offensive coordinator: Great name, promising coach. But he’s a relative newcomer to the process of being considered for head coaching jobs, so the Lions’ lack of success this season may have dimmed his prospects a bit. Still, Breer says the possibility exists of Cooter staying put as Detroit’s offensive coordinator even if the team fires Caldwell. George Edwards, Vikings defensive coordinator: The Vikings just had a shutout in Green Bay and probably have as good a chance as any NFC team to reach the Super Bowl. But is it his defense or Mike Zimmer’s? John DeFilippo, Eagles quarterbacks coach: He doesn’t turn 40 until April. But if NFL teams are looking for the next Sean McVay this offseason, he could be it. Matt Nagy, Chiefs offensive coordinator: The Chiefs saved their season around the time that Coach Andy Reid handed the offensive play-calling duties to Nagy. He, like DeFilippo, could benefit from the McVay factor. Nagy also is 39. Dan Campbell, Saints tight ends coach: The former interim coach of the Dolphins is working his way back toward another NFL head coaching opportunity. Paul Guenther, Bengals defensive coordinator: He could be a viable candidate to replace Lewis with the Bengals if they can’t get Jay Gruden or Hue Jackson. Steve Spagnuolo, Giants interim coach: He’ll be a candidate for the full-time job with the Giants. Kris Richard, Seahawks defensive coordinator: Richard joined Austin, Wilks, Goodwin, Edwards and Titans offensive coordinator Terry Robiskie on the list of head coaching candidates recommended to the league and to teams by the Fritz Pollard Alliance, the diversity group that works closely with the NFL on its hiring practices. Richard succeeded Dan Quinn, now Atlanta’s head coach, as the defensive coordinator in Seattle and has done well, especially with this season’s injuries.
cont'd College coaches Nick Saban, Alabama: He has rebuilt a college football kingdom in Tuscaloosa. Why would he ever leave? Maybe, just maybe, he wants to right the wrong from his NFL failure in Miami, where he went 15-17 as the Dolphins’ coach in 2005 and 2006 after getting Daunte Culpepper instead of Drew Brees to be his quarterback. The Giants and every other NFL franchise with a coaching vacancy would be wise to offer Saban whatever he wants (within something approaching reason), both financially and in terms of control over the roster. At least make him say no. Jim Harbaugh, Michigan: Perhaps Michigan really is his dream job and he’ll never leave it. But it hasn’t been quite as dreamy so far, and his coaching history suggests he never stays anywhere for all that long. He was very, very good in San Francisco at everything other than coexisting with his bosses. He is a proven NFL coaching commodity, at least if you’re willing to live with his abrasiveness and his tendency to move on after a few years. David Shaw, Stanford: He is very good and he is very well regarded within the NFL. But does he want to be an NFL head coach? Former NFL coaches Jon Gruden, former Buccaneers and Raiders coach: He last coached in the NFL in 2008. He is paid well by ESPN, and there are no losses to be endured in the broadcast booth. But he is still relatively young, at 54, and maybe this is the time that the annual speculation about Gruden returning to coaching comes to fruition. On Friday, Pro Football Talk’s Mike Florio reported that “there’s a growing sense in league circles … that Gruden will return to Tampa Bay as the next coach of the Buccaneers.” Bill Cowher, former Steelers coach: Cowher has been away from the sideline even longer than Gruden. He last coached in 2006. But his name has been connected to the Giants in the past. Perhaps it will be connected to them again.
