The jets just clinched...

Here we are again. Fire everyone after a top team barely beats us. That game was really close and we were in it until the blocked punt and Geno pick 6. Once this team finds its quarterback we'll be fine but firing the HC doesn't fix anything. We need to add playmakers on offense. Did anybody honestly think we were a shoe in for the playoffs with the amount of rookies and 2nd year guys starting, and the cap situation over the past couple years? This season has been way better than expected. Stop bitching at the coach for imaginary things he has no control over. He is obviously at the very least finishing his contract.

Congrats to the darksiders on a successful season. It's good to know you always have the team's back during a rebuilding time and don't just look to play the blame game after every single loss. It's good to know that your ego doesn't come before the team and that you don't root for failure or call rookies busts after 9 games into their career. :lol:

Jets fans are probably the most pessimistic and impatient fans in the history of sports.

 

It isn't about the wins and losses. It's his leadership or rather lack thereof, the lack of consistency, the lack of clearly demonstrating that he's learned from his mistakes of the past. He admitted it was his fault that they went into a horrible slump following the bye. He did the same thing to Geno that he did to Sanchez...pressuring him too much about TOs and shutting down the offense, going back to a conservative ground and pound. He just doesn't get it. He isn't even the great Defensive coach that some of you portray him to be. I get that he's likeable and is a good defensive coach who can on occasion devise great game plans. He just can't do it consistently, and has basically built the D to stop the run rather than the pass. For anyone to think that Rex didn't have a HUGE amount of input with Tanny as to whom was drafted, retained, etc. is naive imo. Rex focused on the DL rather than the LB corps and secondary as he should have. He let James Ihedigbo walk as a FA, when he was a fast young Safety who was a good tackler, excellent blitzer and STer, and he's developed into a good SS. He's not a good judge of talent or obviously of his players' mental states, or isn't the motivator he's cracked up to be. It because a circus under his watch, and the franchise is going backwards with three successive losing seasons. 5 years is enough. He needs to go.

 

It's not about having a scapegoat. The offense sucked under both Schotty and Sparano, and Cavanaugh was an awful QB Coach. Retaining terrible or even mediocre coaches accomplishes nothing except consistent suckiness. In order for a HC to be retained when the team has had 3 successive losing seasons, there has to be some extenuating circumstances beyond his control or show that previous mistakes have been corrected. That is not the case with Rex. He had a direct hand in the talent (or lack thereof) on this team and the makeup of the roster, Tanny paid the price for listening to Rex, and it's time for Rex to pay the price. The team's play since the bye clearly demonstrates that Rex has learned little if anything over the last 5 years. He's clueless.

 

It was certainly that way under Tanny. What the heck did Tanny know about football? He is an attorney and bean counter. He wouldn't have recognized football talent if it walked up and smacked him upside the head. Things are different now with Idzik, but Rex bears much of the responsibility for lousy shape this roster is in.

 

I think you have unreasonable expectations.

 

And watch where they end up this year. They proved again last night that they cannot win a big game that they should have won easily.

The Bengals will NEVER win anything with their HC.

 

Agreed, Rex should have been fired before Idzik was hired.

 

Talent on the team has nothing to do with consistent clock mismanagement and undisciplined players committing penalties. That is something that comes from coaching and has not improved in the years with Rex as coach.

 

2 DBs in the first or 2nd round in the past few years is A LOT to commit to the secondary and have it be this bad. Last year everyone ran all over the Jets, this year everyone throws on the Jets, there is no consistently good defense, it's one or the other. The only reason Cro looked decent last year is because it was so easy to run on the Jets. Watching Cro during his time with the Jets you can see the guy is way overrated.

Dee Milliner is not playing like a typical rookie, he's terrible.

 

I can no longer read your posts because this is how they all read to me.

 

Whining is so unbecoming. Blaming fans for the team's poor play and the resulting record? Really? What.. If we all were koolaid drinking homers Dee Milliner would play better? Holmes would actually give a shit about catching a pass? Geno would suddenly morph into Russell Wilson and Stephen Hill would become Megatron?

Puhleeze give it a rest. This team sucked on paper, they sucked on the field and yeah, a lot us saw that and called it out. Some of us grew up with the Jets and know better than to buy into the hype. Some of us grew up and realize that all the faith in the world won't compensate for a poorly constructed, poorly staffed and poorly prepared team.

Same old Jets fans? Perhaps but we've learned the lessons about this team the hard way. Waving pompoms and being naive might be some people's definition of a true fan, but in the end, it only gives a losing franchise reason to stay the course as there won't be any costs from consistently missing out on the glory of a championship. The suckers will continue to buy the PSL's, the gameday tickets and the swag.

For the last 45 years, this has been true. As long as there's Homers out there that buy into the hype, nothing will ever change because it doesn't have to.

I was born in NYC, but as far as the Jets are concerned, I'm from Missouri:

"Show me.."

 

Being a STHer since 65 & having seen them win SB3 so I guess I am the SOJs from the end of the 70 season till now. I really hope all these homers go thru another 45 years of losing & see what it is like. Your post is totally one of the best posts I have ever seen on TGG & really needs no further explanation. If the green sunglasses & koolaid crowd cannot get it then I hope my whammy come true for them so that they can see what it is like to spend 44 years watching nothingness. :smile:

 

Barcs speaking with 48 years of experience with the NYJs I wish to inform that so long as Woody owns the team & RR is the HC & Idzik is the GM this team will continue to be a LOSING FB team & by losing I mean NEVER winning the SB. So sorry I do not drink green koolaid & wear green sunglasses like U. So I hope U enjoy all of your lifetime watching the NYJs LOSE :sad:

 

You keep saying first or 2nd, both players are first round picks so let's get that out of the way. If you're saying that Cromartie was not a shutdown corner last year, you need to watch the games and not look at stats. Yeah the run D was poor last year, but we were still at the top of the list in passing yards, and at the top of the list for % of completions. If the yards don't get you, the percentage does. Cromartie shut down every receiver he matched up against last year, this year, he's getting shitted on week in week out. After playing so well last season, I would hope that he's doing this bad because of his hip injury and not because of him just getting worse. You are right though, he's never been a consistent player for us. I want him gone either way though. Wether it's because of the hip injury of just him regressing, I don't want him on the team next year with his $15 million price tag.

Milliner has definitely had terrible games, but he's also had good games. It's expected when transitioning to the toughest position from college to the pros. Add to that that our corners almost never have safety help, and this was to be expected.

 

Cman,

This is the best post ever on this subject. Great work. I totally agree.

I remember this Italian restaurant that used to be my wife and my favorite restaurant in our area. It was great. We'd go there for most birthdays and anniversaries. Then one day we heard the chef left. next few times we went back, it was not as good, and continued to decline. We eventually stopped going. Not too much longer and it went out of business.

Barcs probably thinks if we had continued going, it would not only have stayed in business, but (more importantly) would have been as good as it once was. This shows an incredible confusion of cause and effect.

In short, the fans being skeptical has nothing to do with causing the poor performance of the team.

 

No definitely not. Like I said, look around the NFL. You won't find too many guards picked in the first round, I'm almost positive that you won't find any in the top 10 other than the two picked this season. That tells me that if your picking a guard in the top 10, he better be a very good player. If the rest of the league can find good guards out of the top 10, so can we.

 

and how do you suggest we could have achieved that during the last couple of years given the cap situation and the fact we were saddled with an old skool top 5 rookie contract?

 

In my early days my son & I used to put flyers on the cars in lot A where I parked urging people to boycott Hess gas when he was alive & owned the NYJs. You think that did any good on the green sunglasses & koolaid crowd? :sad:

 

Cman, BigBlocker and TomDeb, excellent posts! It's really sad how low the standards are for many Jets fans and how they'll gladly cue up for mediocrity, all the while patting themselves on the back and saying how good the team is.