The Jets 2020 Cap

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  1. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    can you not do math lol? that's exactly what I posted.
    I literally did just that. in excel. did you not read either?

    all your replies show is you can't read or do math
     
  2. J-Raw24

    J-Raw24 Well-Known Member

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    All you are doing is subtracting 35 x 700k from the 200+ million that is our cap space. What you don't understand you cannot do that. Agin when you add it up correctly then we can talk.
     
  3. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    you can do that lol and you haven't offered any explanation to your thinking. again it's simple math. here is another way to do it
    the top 45 are 165.1 mil
    the 10 rookies are 10 mil roughly
    that's 175.1 mil
    that assumes we cut all the lowest paid players which isn't realistic.
    then we have 5 mil in dead cap from cuts (tru is 4 mil of this)
    then we have 10 mil in dead cap from PUP (Q and bellamy)
    then we have 1.36 mil for PS
    that's 191.46 mil
    cap is 198.2
    rollover is 8.8
    total adjusted cap is 207
    207 - 191.46 = 15.54

    still nowhere close to your less then 10 mil figure and again this is worst case scenario if we cut only the cheapest players

    Does that make sense to you? i mean I can't make you understand math

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  4. J-Raw24

    J-Raw24 Well-Known Member

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    Here is the roster.
    Player - Cap Hit
    1 Mosley 17500000
    2 Bell 15468750
    3 Crowder 10000000
    4 Williamson 8500000
    5 Darnold 8339374
    6 Anderson 8333333
    7 Williams 7483039
    8 McGovern 7333333
    9 Winters 7281250
    10 Fant 7250000
    11 Adams 7172332
    12 Perriman 6437500
    13 Poole 4937500
    14 Lewis 4308333 1308333
    15 Desir 4000000
    16 Jenkins 3937500
    17 Van Roten 3343750
    18 Griffin 2878823
    19 Mclendon 2826177
    20 Harrison 2250000
    21 Hairston 2133000
    22 Maye 2085378
    23 Hewitt 2000000
    24 Onwuasor 2000000
    25 Farley 1290000
    26 Wilson 1251310
    27 Shepherd 1043143
    28 Hennessy 950000
    29 Herndon 917381
    30 Edoga 891750
    31 Doctson 890000
    32 Andrews 887500
    33 Burgess 875000
    34 Maulet 875000
    35 Willis 865250
    36 Wesco 850971
    37 Basham 825000
    38 Bello 825000
    39 Kaufusi 825000
    40 McDermott 825000
    41 Travis 825000
    42 Fatukai 793563
    43 Cannon 784806
    45 Chesson 760000
    45 Cashmon 750773
    46 Gore 750000

    Total 167594569

    Projected Rookies
    1 Becton 3353826
    2 Mims 987945
    3 Davis 894070
    4 Zuniga 859342
    5 Perine 796336
    6 Morgan 788816
    7 Clark 782748
    8 Hall 688950
    9 Mann 654275
    Rookie total 9806308
    Total 177400877

    Injured Reserve
    1 Enunwa 7800000
    2 Bellamy 2250000
    3 Brown 425000
    Total 10475000
    Cap total 187875877

    Dead Cap
    1 Johnson 4000000
    2 Polite 841854
    3 Nickerson 88740
    4 Countess 65000
    5 McGuire 42128
    6 Jones 36264
    7 Campbell 6667
    8 White 6667
    9 Moore 5667
    Total 5092877
    Cap Total 192968754

    Practice Squad
    12 players x $129000 each = 1548000
    Current Total 194516754
    So 194,516,754 is the correct number.
    Which means the 10 or so million we have left is just enough to sign/trade in season when some gets hurt.
     
  5. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    lol even the dude you agreed with has nothing close to your numbers. and the copy paste is formatted horribly. stop using OTC switch to spotrac

    anyway using OTC the top 46 is actually 167,524,285 so we'll say 167.5 yours is close enough
    rookies 9.8
    dead money you have at 5
    1.29 for the PS
    PUP/IR 10.4

    total 193.99
    less the 207 cap = 13.01 mil

    even using your numbers from OTC (which is less accurate then spotrac) your still off. and again it assumes we cut all the lowest paid players. I see at least 10 or so players not in the top 46 that are likely to make the roster like berrios, vyncent smith, daneil brown, Franklin-myers, bless, kyle phillips, a kicker (you don't have a kicker in your top 46 and 1 is going to make the roster and cost less then they player you count) , luvu, and all the UDFA a couple are likely to make it.

    in short we still have money and it's more then 10 mil.
     
  6. J-Raw24

    J-Raw24 Well-Known Member

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    There are 12 members of the practice squad not 10 like you calculated which is why your numbers are off there. They changed it this year. Just like the 55 player on the team. And I just took the top 46 as it stands. There will be more chance but again we don't have enough to make a big signing as we need to carry some into the season for injuries/trades. And yes some of the player not in the top 46 will make it but that may give us an extra 500k at most not enough to sign anyone. And in truth both sportstrac and Oct are wrong usually it sits somewhere between. That said the only differences are in about 4 contracts, Lewis, and a few others. That said sportstrac doesn't have Maulet and other listed so therefore at the moment it is wrong.
     
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  7. GasedAndConfused

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    I was using your numbers for the PS that's what you said 10 * 129k each
    i'll happily correct it but it's funny you are being so argumentative your 1 correction of my "mistake" was because i took your number. still that's only a 260k difference. not really worth a mention. since i'm at around 17 mil and you are saying 10 mil. 7 mil is a huge difference. Thats what adams is making this year.
    and yes of course GMs like to have a couple of million to play around with to sign people to replace injured players or to make a trade. but they don't need 17 million for that. and of course we can always cut winters and/or williamson who can save over 13 mil if we cut them both. The point was we do have enough money if we want to extend out adams early or add another player. we actually have enough for either logan ryan or clowney if JD wanted to
     
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  8. J-Raw24

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    Reread mine. Again I said in there 12 players x 129k each. You even quoted the post I said it. Yes I said 10 million and we have about 2 million more. 2 million isn't enough to sign anyone. You took nothing from me. We don't have 17 million we have about 12 million. Again we need to carry about 10 into the season for emergency purposes. So we have around 2 million to play with unless we make cuts. As of now I don think we cut anyone except Trumaine. So no we don't have money to get other players unless it's cheap. Cl9wney wants 17+ and Ryan wants 10. Neither are able to fit in our current space unless we cut someone or go into the season with nothing.
     
  9. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    the most recent one yes. originally you said 10 a few posts ago. still we are talking a 260k difference. not a big deal.
    we have about 16-17 mil. your the only one saying lower then that. we also have winters and williamson who are expendable and can save up to 13.7 mil if both are cut.
    we stocked up on o-line. becton, fant, mcgovern, van roten, lewis are locks and likely the starting 5. edoga isn't going anywhere either yet. we drafted clark in the 4th round. that's 7 already. we likely keep only 8-9 maybe 10 since the roster expansion. if winters doens't win a starting job, we'll cut him. he makes too much to be a backup.
    for williamson, he's great but we signed onawasu. we have mosely. they can start. then we have cashman and hewitt. williamson is expendable.
    No way we have less then 15 mil in room. and we could have up to almost 30 mil. the money is there
    you don't need 10 mil in case shit happens. the players you sign during the season rarely get much over the vet minimum. we can sign 5 replacements for 5 million.
     
  10. J-Raw24

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    First every post I said 12 ps players. There isn't one where I said 10 at all. 2nd you are th only one saying 17. Maximus said it was lower. I said lower. 3rd we aren't cutting anyone. The FO has said the like winters. No one would cut Williamson on the cheap of a deal. Its not happening. We have 12 million. No more. No chance to sign anyone. Forget it. And learn math. I laid out the math for you. Now I can point out in season trades and signings where the players get way more than vet minimum. It happens all the time. Hell if Darnold goes down it could cost 8 million to replace. I hope he don't but it could happen with no offseason. Fact is Maximus was way closer than you ar . You should give up and maybe take a math class.
     
  11. GasedAndConfused

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    maximus said like 16 and change. pretty close to 17 IMO. and yeah he said 10 actually not you so my bad there. still it's too small of an amount to matter.
    we are cutting 35 players regardless. it's just a matter of whichs ones.
    now you are saying 12 before you said 10 lol eventually you'll get it right which is in the 17ish range
    and maximus and I were off by around 1 mil. even his numbers say you are way off. so your really just embarassing yourself at this point
     
  12. J-Raw24

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    He said 16 but also said he was counting only 51 and not counting practice squad etc. After it all it will be about 12. Again. I stated I said 10 early but it is 12. And after you figure out that he was only counting the 51 not everything else like ps, the other 4 on roster. Its 12. Not 17. Not even close.
     
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  13. GasedAndConfused

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    nope he wouldn't ever step off the top 51 nonsense. he never said that.
    the top 51 right now is at 11.9 mil but in 9 days when tru comes off it'll be around 25 mil
     
  14. J-Raw24

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    So even though we can only get a max 11 million savings from Tru we will get another 13 million in cap. You really are a special kinda stupid. And yes he did say that 16 million was for 51 man roster so he wasn't counting the other 4 players or the practice squad. Therefore we have 12, even after the Trumaine cut. Because that cut is pretty much paying our rookies.
     
  15. GasedAndConfused

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    lol 22 million. still please be argumentative. your completely wrong. I messed up 1 number and just fixed it. you messed up every number and refuse to admit it and instead insult me. who is the special kind of stupid here? maybe you should go on a lego forum and talk about blocks. it seems to be more your speed. and go ahead and lie about maximus agreeing with you again. I love how you glossed over that. your numbers are completely wrong and the reason they will never be right is becuase you are a special mix of stubborn and ignorant and angry
     
  16. J-Raw24

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    I showed the number and wrote it all out for you.
     
  17. MaximusD163

    MaximusD163 Well-Known Member

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    @GasedAndConfused @J-Raw24 guys it’s your life but I’m just gonna throw it out there... I don’t think this one is worth where it’s going.
     
  18. GasedAndConfused

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    lol you copy and pasted something with wrong numbers. I actually showed it out and you could point out anything wrong so insulted me
     
  19. GasedAndConfused

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    lol it's not. IDK why he got so angry over cap figures. but your right. i'll let him shout at nothing and put him on ignore.
     
  20. J-Raw24

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    I gave you all the number. And they are a average from sportstrac and otc. They have all the dead spa e etc which you excluded. They have the correct practice squad figures. Also Maximus had almost the same numbers if you consider his 16 million did not include practice squad etc. So how you think we have 5 million more make no sense. It because you didn't include all the numbers. The extra 4 he didn't count are let's say 2.5 million the practice squad is 1.5 million. 16 -4 is 12. He go the same number you are wrong.
     

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