The impending WR conundrum.

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  1. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    i really dislike the 1 trick pony remakrs. he was as a rookie. last year he grew into a full WR and has proven to be a number 1. he just isn't getting the volume right now for whatever reason to put up big numbers. darnold clearly prefers Q

    he runs all the routes, makes big catches over the middle and has amazing speed and ball skills and hands he is badly underrated by jet fans
     
  2. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    Q is on pace for a 104 rec 1200 yard season.
    Can we stop with the “we don’t have a number 1 receiver” narrative.
     
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    CotcheryFan 2018 ROTY Poster Award Winner

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    I couldn't disagree more. He's out number one deep threat, but not great on short routes. He's too thin more my liking. He also needs to make better decisions off the field. In no way is he trash.
     
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  4. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    The guy who posted both of these things is not to be taken seriously. Check the post history.
     
  5. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

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    Conundrum? What conundrum?

    Q: Stays on a long term.
    Robby: Stays on a tender.
    Everyone else: Stay cheap or take a hike.
    TE: GTFO

    Isn't it on the wall already?

    Now is the time to retool the OL and get the pass rusher. Once the OL improves, run game improves and pass game improves as well. Now is not the time to shop for the luxuries, when there are a number of key deficiencies in the center of the field.
     
  6. Cman69

    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    He really doesn't get open enough to be a #1 Wr. No where near as open as Q gets. He's still too light in the ass to take the pounding over the middle too and he sure as hell ain't breaking tackles. Send the kid down the sidelines midrange ->deep. That's where Twig earns his money. I'm trying to remember the last over the middle catch Twig made and held on to. I do know that the middle of the field belongs to Q, Powell and perhaps Kearse. Sorry, not sold on Twig as a #1wr. Deep ball? Yes.. Short to midrange stuff? no...
     
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  7. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    Come again?
     
  8. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, bad wording. The guy who posted the original comments you are referring to. He stinks.
     
  9. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    watch the video. plenty of them. especially on 3rd and long he made some great catches on square ins and slant routes took a big hit and held on and popped right up. he also doens't go down easy. I'd suggest watching the video to refresh your memory. he's more then a 1 trick pony and is open quite a bit. darnold just hasn't been looking his way much and clearly has chemistry and faith in Q.
     
  10. Zach

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    I mean, don't people remember simple things as [how Patriots used to play back in the 2000's]?

    Tom Brady wasn't the Tom Brady of today of course, but he gave this famous response to the question of "who is his favorite receiver."

    When asked, Tom answered: "Open receiver."

    So who did Patriots have at WR back then? They featured the likes of Deion Branch, David Givens and Kevin Faulk out of the backfield. None of them are #1-worthy by any stretch. They won a lot of games with these at WRs just fine.
     
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  11. NCJetsfan

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    Good thread for discussion.

    Obviously, I think it depends upon what happens this year...how each of them perform for the Jets, what players at WR and other positions hit FA, and how much these 4 and the Jets other FAs want. If the Jets want to keep all 4, they certainly have the cap space to do so. With Hansen gone and possibly Stewart, aside from Deontay Burnett on the PS, they'll have no young WR in the wings aside from Anderson, and while there is a long list of WRs who are 27 or younger who could be FAs next year, half may never make it to FA and the other half may not be any good or want to play for the Jets. Following is a list of WRs 27 and younger who could possibly make it to FA. The Jets could also look to sign an older FA WR as a stop gap for a year or two.

    UFAs:
    Devin Funchess (25)
    Donte Moncrief (26)
    Jordan Matthews (26)
    Adam Humphries (26)
    Phillip Dorsett (26)
    De'Anthony Thomas (26)
    Maurice Harris (26)
    Sammie Coates (26)
    Chris Conley (26)
    Tommylee Lewis (26)
    Kevin White (27)
    Tyrell Williams (27)
    Cody Latimer (27)
    T.J. Jones (27)
    Geremy Davis (27)
    Nick Williams (27)
    Freddie Martino (27)
    J.J. Nelson (27)
    Justin Hardy (27)
    Kaelin Clay (27)

    RFAs:
    Rashard Higgins (24)
    Geronimo Allison (25)
    Chester Rogers (25)
    D.J. Foster (25)
    Tanner McEvoy (26)
    Damiere Byrd (26)
    Eli Rogers (26)
    Josh Huff (27)
    Jordan Taylor (27)

    Then if they're willing to sign a headcase, there's Martavis Bryant (27) and Josh Gordon (27 but a RFA) or a bust, Breshard Perriman (25)

    With no 2nd round pick, and needing a LT and an edge rusher, it's almost certain that the Jets wouldn't take a WR before the 4th or 5th round. If they can sign a quality edge rusher like Clowney or Fowler in FA, I think they'll use their 1st and 3rd round picks on an LT and OG. If not, it could be LT and edge rusher or edge rusher and OL. Unless Herndon or Leggett develop, they may even look at using their 3rd round pick on a quality TE.

    I think that Enunwa and Anderson will definitely be back. At this point, I'd let Pryor walk. Unless they sign a couple of FA WRs or Burnett develops, I expect Kearse will probably be back as well. I think that probably makes the most sense in terms of continuity for Darnold. With the Jets possibly focusing on signing Marpet, Clowney/Fowler and maybe a TE or CB, I think it makes sense to pretty much keep the unit intact so they can focus on the other acquisitions.
     
  12. James Hasty

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    He has been quiet so far but Peake is in his third year.

    If he breaks out we can lock him up while letting one of our over-priced veterans walk.
     
  13. Zach

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    Jets have 2 3's. [Teddy gave us that. Nice investment of 500k from MacCagnan.]
     
  14. Attackett

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    Q and Anderson are must keeps, Q should be signed yesterday and as others mentioned Anderson will be tendered and likely back.

    These are the two no brainers, it gets a bit more tricky with both Pryor and Kearse. The season is still too young to have an opinion one way or the other on those two.
     
  15. NoodleArm

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    A healthy Kearse changes everything. If he had those last two preseason games and the first regular season game (as well as the associated practices), then maybe Darnold tosses the ball to him instead of trying to get it to Herndon. Kearse has solid hands and, unlike Pryor, runs routes like a WR.

    That said, I like the idea of adding a true #1 to the team. The Jets need a Larry type to pair with Darnold. Maybe a Fuchess, Coates, or Watkins can play that role? It would help out, not only Darnold, but the other receivers, too.
     
  16. I dont necesarily buy the “build your line & fill in the vanity stuff later” mainly bc weve lived by that mantra as long as i can remember & we always end up painfully limited at the boundary w guys who cant get open,drop easy balls & fail us in big spots. You mention the Patriots WR corps but how many times have we seen them come up short cause of the weapons or make a move for a #1 during the season? Beyond that every franchise is different.Jets need big boy talent on the perimeter they can trust in big spots & can make big plays.The only guy right now like that is Enunwa

    Despite all of this supply is setting up to follow your philosophy.WR has great options in early rounds of draft but chances are we’re looking at an LT as this is the best class in awhile & its the second biggest weakness on the team.Guard,edge & Nose tackle i see gettiing addressed in FA. Perhaps skill gets addressed in round 3..which doesnt give me great confidence given Mac’s track record.
     
  17. GWjet

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    I’d like to pair up Q with Golden Tate
     
  18. NCJetsfan

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    That's right! I had forgotten about that pick. Thanks.

    So hopefully, the Jets can get their future LT with their 1st round pick, and either trade into the 2nd to get an edge rusher, or use one of their 3rd round picks on an OG or C and the other on another OL or whatever position it has become apparent needs to be addressed.
     
  19. Zach

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    I'd address that premier edge rushing option from the FA. Someone has to fall. [I like Clowney.]

    That leaves the next 3 picks to fill the OL. LT in the 1st, with C and LG in 3rd would round up the biggest needs nicely.
     
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  20. Bellys Lies

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    q is going to want 13 million per if he continues to play well. Landry got 15 million as a slot receiver.
     

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