Hoyer or Geno, what is really the difference? Both are utter garbage, though Hoyer is having some success as of late with Chicago. I thought Hoyer was awful after that playoff experience.
I was just throwing out suggestions on players. The point is that the $10 mill more that Fitz got as opposed to Hoyer was significant from the standpoint of filling other needs. The timing was also significant on both Fitzpatrick and Wilkerson.By waiting until August for both, it meant the Jets had to sit out FA completely while they stared down both players only to pay them what they wanted anyway.
Woody, the media & many impatient fans refuse to acknowledge this. Therefore..we'll keep seeing the high profile has been's every season until permanent productive solutions are found(if ever)
Mac is great, I disagree with anyone who argues he has not put this team in position to be good. We just completely shit the bed on the field. He is not responsible for the big play after big play given by our defense. Also, the same goes for the abysmal 2nd half scoring. Lack of any adjustments.
You are complaining about LB, QB, and CB. In our most recent draft the first four picks were LB. QB. LB, and CB. You can say the guy is doing a bad job but to accuse him of failing to address those three needs is just silly. You could argue that Miles Jack, MacKenzie Alexander, and Dak Prescott would be better selections at those positions but he did make an effort to fill those needs.
Please tell me how you don't think he speaks to TB? Last year he gave TB his "shut down corners" overpaying Mevi$ and getting Cromartie In round one of the draft, we try for Tunsil but of course get Lee who has largely unimpressed imo. Another Defensive player...now who do you think pushed for that? Not sure if you want phone records but Mac has to speak with Bowles What GM doesn't?? If I were Mac I would tune clueless out
I believe he has done a good job, he brought in some good FA. He drafted well, Charone Peake is a player, Burris looks like a keeper as a CB, Mauldin was playing fine, now can't see the field. I think the CS is the problem in particular TB. It seems they are having a tough time putting the pieces together, Sheldon Richardson should not be playing the LB position and dropping into coverage the way he did against the cardinals. They have a faster LB in Carter that can accomplish that role. I agree that Mac has to address the oline, but surprisingly the oline has been playing well in pass protection, the running game is where they are struggling. Mac will stay, there is no way he gets fired, TB will lose his job first, that just my gut feeling.
So Woody had nothing to do with Revis? Cro was a Cardinal CB, and he came on an essential 1 yr contract. As far as I am concerned, Lee was the best player available OTC. Lee is going to be a good player in this league, he needs to develop. Not here to attack you, but you were truly on board with Fitzpatrick and as far as I am concerned that signing has Mac, Bowles, Forte, Marshall and Decker all over it. Not just Bowles. You guys thought he was the next coming of Rich Gannon. Mac was wrong for caving. Again, you can't attack Bowles while giving Mac a pass.
OK, fair enough. You know that I didn't want Fitz back and for the reasons you cited, but also that I was in the minority on this site, and probably among the fanbase. With Wilkerson who knows if they tried to trade him and could find no takers, didn't want him back, did but didn't think he was worth what he wanted, or what was the reason for the delay. I wish it could have been resolved earlier, too. It may have been Mac's fault, or something that was beyond his control. We may never know.
Mac's biggest flaw is the construction of the DLine. Anytime you have Sheldon playing ILB or dropping back in pass coverages, there's a real issue with personnel. Hopefully, Mac will get away from BPA to BPA/need. We really don't need another DE.
NC I hear you and maybe I am wrong and will try and find the interviews and listen again but I remember him being pressed and asked about the line and and he had little concern NC ,you are correct he NEVER said solely thru FA ,I heard many interviews as you did probably and read the articles, this is the first one that popped up when I searched it and again and I realize he could not tip his hand regarding the draft but he gave little concern prior to the draft or afterwards regarding the line and that was always a scary thought to me especially since we have or had little depth coming into the draft But Maccagnan doesn't think you need to get a bunch of highly drafted offensive linemen in order to build a successful line. "I think historically, when you look at teams that are successful, one of the things they do in the draft is they find value in offensive line prospects that they can kind of grow and develop," he said. "They don't always have to be high picks. A lot of teams are very successful developing an offensive line through the draft -- picks from the third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh round, and sometimes even college free agents." listening to him and reading the quotes I never got the feeling that the line was a priority to him,,or maybe I should say that I never felt he was going to draft a lineman early in the draft and he didn't / has not as of yet ps taking an offensive lineman in the 6th or 7th rounds or signing undrafted free agents is a REACH in my eyes.
Good point. The problem with the defensive line seems to be exactly what I alluded to in the offseason and what I was worried about. They're all jammed up in the middle using their inside moves. Neither offensive tackle needs to swing out wide and protect the edge because there's no threat there. They just stack themselves in the middle and hold their ground. As good of individual players as they might be, they're putrid in working next to each other. They've even tried stunts and Wilk or Leonard Williams stunting around McLendon to rush inside does not work because they're too slow. It's starting to remind me of the Quinton Coples pick in building this massive defensive front. They're no cohesion among hem and they do not compliment each other. It's just too many big bodies next to each other and it actually works against them individually.
Thanks for your response. I understand your concern for the OL. If Mac thinks he can develop an adequate OL with low-round picks or college FAs at both OT spots, then I will get upset. I know that a number of teams have built great OLs with OGs and their C coming from the 3rd round and lower. Even then, it can be difficult to find those players, but in general, I agree with that approach if one can find those players, but not at the price of effective OL play. The OT positions are premium positions and imo require 1st or 2nd round picks. most of the time.
GTFO--you got a lot of nerve calling people clueless after you stated how deep this team was and how positive you were that they could make a playoff run. I'll post your shitty posts in the thread you made it in if you can't shut up.
Richardson needs to be inside. The man is ideal for the under tackle position. Line him up on the guard's outside shoulder and tell him just get after it all game. With his quickness, his low center of gravity and his "motor"/desire he would be in the backfield all game long. Then you put Wilkerson and Williams as the defensive ends lining up outside the tackles and you let McClendon anchor everything inside. How hard is that????? they might as well trade Richardson if they are going to use him how they are now. It is a complete waste and it pisses me off every week
