Well I would love us to go 16-0 but that is not gonna happen and at the end of the day we are in a rebuild mode, every win will come at a cost, get past 4 wins and we go into the probability of picking 6th again, granted we have done brilliantly the last two drafts with the number 6 pick but not so well further down the draft, obviously lessons will have to be learned if we are to get the best out of the draft picking first in every round, is Mac up to that pressure, only time and our subsequent rebuild will tell us.
But we aren't assembling a team of leaderless losers are we, quite the opposite, even if they lost all 16 games it doesn't make them losers in the sense you are implying, it just makes them a young team learning and growing and hopefully improving. Do you think if they lost all 16 games 31-28 (obviously not going to happen) they won't have shown promise and this makes them "losers" there is so many ways to judge this team, during a rebuild it certainly shouldn't be on how many wins they get. Progress man, progress. The attitudes from some of you is the reason the Jets have not attempted a rebuild for a long time, a proper rebuild not a sticking plaster fix of some youths and older FA's like the 10/6 two seasons back.
Well 6-10 will not solve our problem either, all it will solve is your pride in being able to say well at least we won 6 games and are not as bad as all that, well yip fucking ee to that.
Also it is like you can not read anything else I have typed, stop fixating on 0-16 and take it in the context it was written ffs
I'm all for rebuilding. Cut the deadweight like Revis and Marshall, give young players the opportunity to play, and accept the fact you won't be making the playoffs. But cutting Decker and Harris and putting together the worst roster in the NFL, which makes your young players get beaten up and not care about winning, isn't the answer either. You want to build a team, not pray the top pick will save you.
I think you are mistaking the premise 101 and a few others are taking. I think everyone is on board with the rebuild but do not believe a full tank,must get top pick, lose every game strategy is the only way it is successful. You look at the draft and you can see,who you pick is way more important than where you pick. It's always the usual suspects picking at the top and it doesn't seem to be benefiting them much. We are not in this position right now because we haven't had the top pick in the draft since 1996, we are here because the picks we have made haven't panned out. Thinking it will turn around just because we were the worst team in the league one year is ignoring the facts
Is something wrong with your brain or reading ability ? I did say I would prefer us to go 0-16 for three seasons, rather than dying 6-10 like we have done for years, going nowhere forever. Do I want us to go 0-16 for the rest of my life ? No Do I want us to use the top picks for in round to improve this franchise ? Yes Have I said this for the last 2 months or more on here ? Yes Why you have decided to ramp it up this week is anybody's guess. You waded in when I replied to somebody else and said I should be ashamed of myself for not wanting them to win a game next season for the long term good of the franchise. I then had a decent conversation with the other poster and laid down my thoughts but all the fuck you keep rattling on about is 0-16 0-16 is there any point in continuing this conversation ? I also said it is extremely unlikely to happen. Again, context, context, context.
It isn't just the top pick though is it and like I said earlier in the thread, we are building a team, granted it is young but there is some promise in there, I wasn't an advocate for cutting Decker or Harris, you do need somebody to impart knowledge and experience to the youngsters. I think this was a mistake more so now that Enunwa has gone down for the season, quite a big blow tbh.
I agree with your logic, but the definition of "fan" is short for FANatic, which is derived from the over the top emotional reactions of a team's supporters. So, while my "logical" brain can accept your prescription, my emotional heart will be torn apart by the abject failure of losing every single game for months on end. The "best" I can hope for is them winning no more than 3 games MAX, but being somewhat competitive in their losses, showing a lot of promising building blocks going forward. And even if Hack shows decent ability (assuming they ever let him play), they had better take their #1 pick and take the best QB available. This is the best I can look forward to this season.
Oh so now it's the rest of your life in terms of 0-16 and not just the 3 years straight like you said before? Going 0-16 SHOULD never be a suggestion. Never go full retard kid. TBH, if you shouldn't have said it. There are many ways to build a football team. Getting the highest pick or going 0-16 does not equate to a successful rebuild. What you seem to miss out on is the fact that, it's all about WHO you pick and for the most part the Jets have missed on a lot of players WITHIN their draft position. News flash, you can get the #1 overall and STILL fuck it up. Fans that root for an 0-16 or want an 0-16 season , aren't fans in my eyes. 2014, Texans had the top pick and Raiders picked 5th; don't you think the Texans would've traded their draft for the Raiders draft? Go be a 76er fan if you love tanking multiple years. You can still win 2 or 3 games and get that prized pick you need to develop your team. Great prospects fall all of the time, it will happen in this draft too.
Normally I'd agree with this, but it's not 0-16 for xxxxx years. It's getting the 1st pick in the right year. By all indications 2018 seems to be the year to tank, might finally net FQB.
If they haven't won a game by December, and another team has no wins or only a loss, then they ought to lose every game to ensure getting that #1 pick. There is absolutely no "pride" to be had in winning 4 or fewer games. Now, would I enjoy it? Of course not. I would hate it, but what I would hate even more - MUCH more - is them winning a couple of pointless games and landing, once again, in draft purgatory, on the outside looking in as the cream of the draft is plucked ahead of them. And you know that next year the Pats will somehow put a package together to trade for the #1 pick (or at least the first pick ahead of the Jets) and grab the FQB that will win them another half dozen SBs. Is that what you're willing to risk to win a couple of meaningless games? Not me.
We don't need to tank, the team is already bad and inexperienced. I still want to see this team fight each and every week. Tanking is losing games intentionally, I can't ride with a team that does that. If Hack / Petty ain't the guy we aren't winning more then 2 or 3 games anyway. We'll be in position to get a QB.
Well we have a difference of opinion, it may be best for you to go and bother somebody else for a while and for the bolded bit above, if you didn't understand that post then it is pointless continuing, if you want to keep misreading my posts and twisting the words into what you want them to mean continually missing the context in which they were written that is up to you, I can't help you understand, it seems you are doing it on purpose tbh but hey ho. Also not quite so sure why you feel the need to keep insulting me either, calling people a retard is hardly conducive to a pleasant disagreement but I guess that is the internet for you and before you jump all over that I called you stupid in the first part of argument as again that was in context of the post, I then thought it came across wrong and edited out but by then you had already quoted it, but you keep right along with the insults there has been more than one.
Right, I will quote this and say did you not read my post where I said I would like us to go down fighting every game this season and lose by a single score ? Unrealistic but it still not wanting the team to give up and die on the field with little effort, no doubt you skipped past my post that said that.
I just don't want the Jets to be on that list of teams that never won a game. If they haven't won a game by December, chances are they will win at most 1 or 2 games that entire year. Probably by a stroke of luck. No matter the circumstance, I still want to see the team put out a competitive effort. I don't want to roll over like the Colts did with Luck, they still haven't won anything with him at the helm. They probably never will.
Actually they haven't, and that's the whole damn problem! They've been half-assing things for decades, and that's because they have idiots for ownership. This year isn't even officially a "rebuilding" year,since all they've really done is gotten rid of a lot of dead wood and expensive contracts.
