The Geno Smith "Era" (Official Geno Thread) - All Geno Talk in here!

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  1. Br4d

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    In 1970 the Steelers drafted Terr Bradshaw as the #1 pick in the draft. The previous year they'd taken Terry Hanratty #30 overall in the 2nd round and they'd given him enough starts that year to know he probably wasn't the guy, leading to the Bradshaw pick in '70.

    What the Steelers did with the situation was to switch back and forth between Bradshaw and Hanratty all season. They'd start the rookie Bradshaw until he made a mistake that they couldn't ignore and then they'd bring in Hanratty to handle a drive, a quarter, whatever it took for Bradshaw to get his head back on right.

    About halfway through the season they began starting Hanratty and bringing in Bradshaw to give him some experience. They weren't watching Hanratty all that closely at this point, they knew what he was likely to bring. They were watching for situations where Bradshaw would get something, learn something from his time on the field.

    That season the Steelers went 5-9, which sounds horrible but was actually a step up from where they'd been in '68 and '69. Bradshaw was horrible that year, making mistake after mistake and losing some games for them. Hanratty wasn't much better. The offense was a complete mess all year.

    What they got out of the year though was a complete commitment to Bradshaw based on what they saw. The numbers were bad but they knew they had something there. The next year Bradshaw started almost all the games and Hanratty only spelled him occasionally. The year after that the Steelers were born in the new successful image that they have maintained for most of the last 4 decades and Bradshaw was now a significant piece of the puzzle.

    The important thing was that the Steelers made the commitment to Bradshaw after taking him #1 and then did not allow events to move them far off of that in the next two seasons. They used Hanratty to cushion the blows that Bradshaw would inflict on the offense and to give Bradshaw clear feedback on what was going to keep him off the field.

    If the choice this year is Sanchez or Smith the Jets might be well served by starting Smith and then using Sanchez whenever they needed to in order to get Smith's head back on straight after the NFL reminded him of something he needed to work on.

    The benefits of that arrangement would be to give Smith enough field time for the Jets to really evaluate his play. Not just garbage time after the season was effectively over but real competitive time to evaluate his performance and potential moving forward. They don't have a #1 pick invested in him so the chances they decide to move on are real.

    The benefits of the situation for Sanchez are less obvious but if he's just giving the rookie breathers the odds are pretty good the crowd is a lot less hostile to him. And he might even play well enough that the Jets decide to leave him on the field after a few substitute games. This is one of the few ways that Sanchez would get a risk free chance to show what he has left at this point in his career. Teams looking for a QB next year would have a chance to see him play a fair amount in 2013, unless Smith just grabbed the job and ran with it.
     
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    This post is ironic.
     
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    A divided fan-base, Geno-lovers vs Sanchez-lovers - and here I am sitting in the middle ... That would be a good Spiderman Office Meme ...
     
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    they really want to see what he has don't they?

    Should Sanchez beat him outright (which he has yet to do Cimini's word be damned) I think the only reason they implement this is to get Geno's feet wet.

    problem is Smith is a pocket passer that can get out of dodge if he has to,not really a mobile threat.

    but this is all speculation, we'll know for sure whats going on in a month.
     
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    I didn't mean to mis-lead, hence the "quote"...

    If the Jets ever pull their head out of their ass, they might just enjoy the view.
     
  8. Hobbes3259

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    More Cimini crap.

    If someone on the staff said that, thats really bad.

    Well, we want to milk the Geno-hype, like Tebow, by asking him to do something he wasnt good at in college?

    Really?

    The organization, is fucking this guy over, in order to drive their previous investment.

    In any other place, that woukd be smart...but given the NY media, when Sanchez is under center, the media jackals are going to be all over Smith.

    Even, if Sanchez performs, and theJets are winning.

    It would have been better to temper the expectations, and let Smith come out on top, and if he didnt, no big deal.
     
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    ....and Rex will be fired. I am tired of all the proclamations by Sanchez that he will win the competition. The phony bravado does not guarantee anything. He could be mimicking Rex with this kind of behavior. Point is, he is really just whistling past the graveyard. He does not possess the onions to play well in front of the home crowd.
     
  10. Acad23

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    What they should do is this.

    Determine before each game exactly which series they will run the Genoffenseâ„¢, and run it no matter what the game situation is.

    Hell, maybe the can run it once every quarter.

    They could even determine it a day or two before the game and put out a press release. That oughta work...
     
  11. Hobbes3259

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    Marty doesnt run the airraid, though I believe they could with Kerley.

    Bottom line is this.

    Rex isnt putting his future as a head coach, in Genos hands.

    Sanchez got him to two chamoionship games, and for the first time ever has a real OC.

    And who, do you suppose has a faster track to the bosses ear? Idzik, or Rex?
     
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    No change of pace scenario with Geno...Come on, stop fucking around here Jets
     
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    This would be an extremely stupid thing for Rex to do.

    As for Geno, he will probably start. I have a feeling it's going to come from higher up too. Idzik would not have drafted him if he weren't going to start sometime during the year.
     
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    People need to stop overreacting, damn. This was news a month ago, but Dick took it out from under the dust and decided to stir shit up- well sadly he succeeded.

    Rex was asked during a press conference if we could see Geno in a wildcat role and he said something along the lines of "possibly", basically leaving it open ended and not saying straight up no to the idea. Rex probably never even discussed the notion or thought of it prior to being asked. Jesus people, I highly doubt he is that dumb, and if he is, his ass is on the street before the year is over.
     
  15. Some of you really need to get over the paranoia. It's football.It's New York. The media is gonna cry QB controversy no matter what the Jets do. Why let them dictate the team's game plan?

    If Geno doesn't win the starting job this would allow him to still get meaningful snaps on gameday while also giving the opposition a different element to worry about. This is exactly what the Niners did w/ Kaepernick & it seemed to serve him well.

    This is completely independent of Tebow regardless of what the conspirators on here may think.
     
  16. Br4d

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    This is not what the 49ers did with Colin Kaepernick. The 49ers gave a college option QB a subset of option plays to run as a change-of-pace.

    If the Jets were doing with Geno Smith what the 49ers did with Kaepernick they'd set up an Air Raid package of plays for Smith to run as a change of pace.

    Asking Smith to run an option offense as the change of pace would be like the 49ers asking Kaepernick to run an Air Raid.

    Just to expand on this a bit: if the Jets really want to use Smith as a change of pace they should draw up about a dozen Air Raid plays and let him run from that book in the limited snaps he gets. It would definitely mess with the other team's personnel alignments a bit since the Air Raid runs no-huddle most of the time.
     
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  17. First of all we don't know what the package would look like for Geno. It could end up BEING an air raid type of deal.

    Secondly, how do we know he'd fail in an option offense? He clearly has athleticism, can do damage as a ball carrier & can throw the ball on the run?

    "Change of pace" is awfully vague & until we see exactly what they have in mind, why jump to conclusions?
     
  18. Br4d

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    Why would the Jets set up an option offense for a QB who has never run an option offense?

    What's the point of that?
     
  19. No different than any college QB playing in any NFL passing offense for the first time. The difference in complexity is immense.Footwork,throwing depths,reads,check downs,playbook quantity. Like nothing a QB has ever seen up to that stage.

    In comparison the option is relatively simple to learn & to operate.It's more about reacting then it is decision making. That's not to say their wouldn't be a learning curve..but if you have athleticism,understand ball security as well as basic QB know-how, it's not like throwing everitt mcgyver blindside against Bruce Smith
     
  20. Br4d

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    Name a pocket passer who did not run the ball a lot in college setup to run an option in his rookie year.
     

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