I love how people act as if last year was his only year starting in college. Sorry, but unlike Sanchez, Geno started for MORE than one season in college. Everyone focuses on last year, and how Geno "fell off" in the second half of the season, but what they don't realize is that he still had some of the best numbers in the country over that stretch. You can say that he played in a gimmick offense, but he started 13 games as a TRUE SOPHMORE in a ground and pound O, under center the majority of the time. And you could say that Stedman Bailey and Tavon did the majority of the work as their YAC stats are nutty, but he still made all the throws, and a lot of those throws mimic what the WCO features. People need to look beyond last year, i.e. LSU in 2010, 2011.
I think my main fear about Geno, most likely unfounded, is that he develops into a QB that can put up an overall season of excellent stats while choking in big games and the playoffs. A la Philip Rivers and Tony Romo. Most likely unfounded, but a guy that puts up impressive stats in NCAA and isn't known for winning, but for fading in the second half of his senior year of college... that's kind of suspect.
Let me see if I follow the rational developing in this thread. 1) We criticize our GM for drafting Geno in the second, but we were thrilled with moving up to draft Sanchez in the first after one year of College ball. A QB that even Pete Carroll said it was not ready. Brilliant. 2) Geno is overrated. All Geno did was dump short passes to his two great WRs. No shit, what should you do when you don't have a running game at all and a crappy defense playing against superior teams. Do you really think Sanchez would have done better in that scenario. Oh wait, I seem to recall that at that time USC had a monster running game and a superb O line. Sanchez took long minutes to find his receivers. 3) There is no QB competition. There is always a QB competition, and when you are rated at the bottom of the NFL as a QB, you had a shitty year and your decision making has eroded as bad as your confidence nothing is guaranteed. 4) Most GMs did not have Geno as a first round choice or top QB. First off we don't know that for a fact. Second so what? Neither did they have Brady, or Wilson, but they had Leaf, and many other busts. We need to take a deep breath and watch how the two QBs develop under MM. Isn't it time we give Geno a chance to prove himself on the field? He needs time to develop and he should be given every chance and the same commitment we gave Sanchez. Sanchez on the other and, is fresh out of excuses. He needs to step it up and make the right decisions. Time is running out for him, and no West Coast camp training will help reduce the pressure he will be under. As of now,without one day of training camp in the books, calling Geno a bust is as ridiculous as thinking that Sanchez is the NYJ QB of the future. Much more is needed in the way of demonstrated ability (or not) from both of them.Only difference is, Geno has time on his side, Sanchez does not.
Tavon Austin caught roughly a third of Genos passes. So the offense boils down to, check the guy covering Tavon....or go to the other guy. Though...FWIW, that worked for Brady and Welker Surprised the Pats didnt draft him.
Yes. Geno had more starts. Sanchez had a better final season in college. And Sanchez was playing a WCO in college. Look, this really boils down simply. Geno, is learning his fiirst NFL playbook, and learning to play under center at this level. Sanchez? He's working on cutting down fumbles, by keeping two hands on the ball. Thats not a knock on Geno. From the clips Ive seen....he looks impressive...but how about we let the kid get acclimated. Half of the board was Jizzing over the Ivory acquisition..,hes been in the NFL for years. How about we let Geno actually develop. The distaste for Sanchez, while understandable, is undeserved, considering the context. And with two new guards, does anyone want to waste the Geno pick, to a blitzing LBer? Geno, isnt there yet, through no fault of his own...but should the organization repeat the same mistake of non-support they made with Sanchez?
Ditto....if it were my decision, Sanchez would get the customary first team reps, and everyone behind Geno, wouldnt see the field. Geno would go 3/4 in game one, 1/2, in game 2, and I wouldnt play Sanchez for the customary 3/4 in game 3. Id play him a quarter, and put Geno against the ones for the 2nd and 3rd qtr. After that would be the only pre season snaps for Sackelroy and Simms.
If you think that is the only thing Sanchez has to work on, you are out of your MIND. If that were true, Geno wouldnt even be on this team. And I see a similar trend... You ever think that a good deal of Sanchez's success in college came from a phenomenal defense? Over the course of the entire season, they only let up an average of 19 ppg. The average points they let up during their wins in the regular season? 12. Its not a hard task to win the way he did in college when you defense is giving you the ball back consistently, without letting up points. USC's offense led by Sanchez put up 38 ppg. WVU's offense led by Geno put up 42 ppg. The Mountaineers' defense let up on average TWICE that of USC's (38). The win-loss column doesnt tell the whole story here (as we know so very well with Sanchez his first two years).
Your hilarious Hobbes. Sanchez had a higher rating by .7. Completion %, Yards, TD:INT ratio, and number of TDs were owned by Geno. Thats like saying Russel Wilson had a better passing year than Matt Ryan or Drew Brees because he had a slighly better passer rating and YPA. Smh.
When does Sancho start working on actual quarterbacking skills? p.s. I love the way you come up with this nonsense.:rofl:
I love people who say that Geno looks like a choker based on his Senior Bowl game.... those people must have never watched his previous bowl game vs Clemson (The Orange bowl) in 2011. Seriously people, do some damn research before you automatically make these assumptions, this dude went to back to back bowl games and can win.
I guess Rodgers' success means nothing because he threw to Driver, Jennings, Cobb, Jones and Nelson, right? And Geno faced 6 teams in the top 40. Sanchez faced 4. You can look to this post for Geno's stats vs them: Sanchez's stats- 63% completion, average of 242 ypg, 12 TD's to 2 INT's. Edit: Forgot to add Pennt State in the bowl game. Dont feel like recalculating this. So, point is, Geno played as well, if not slighly better when seemingly being asked to do more against the top competition (which is of a similar number). Im not saying Geno was a better prospect, but to say that Sanchez had a much better college career is false. And to chalk up all of his success to a 5'8 receiver is just as false. I mean it makes sense being that you probably didnt watched much of Smith's college tape.
I don't disagree at all...except the way you frame it, you make it sound like that's his only issue. This kid has been so poorly coached that he struggles in almost every area of his job. I'm still waiting for somebody, anybody, to say what Sanchez does well at this point. It's just weird, yet so Jet-like, that the 5th year starter is working on "keeping two hands on the ball"... Shit...this is the Geno thread. Sorry...I'll continue the rant there.
The thing that's really aggravating is that Geno Smith is clearly having some adjustment issues to the new offense and to the NFL game in general. That's to be expected, he's a rookie. Sanchez on the other hand can't get enough daylight between him and Smith to make the QB competition just a formality at this point. Every time he has a good day it's not better enough than what Smith did to get some breathing space. When he has a down day there's Smith right alongside him having a down day and again things seem tight in the competition. This is a raw rookie coming from a freakshow offense in college and he's hanging in there with a 4 year starter who should just be blowing him away. It doesn't inspire much confidence in what the offense is likely to do this year because either Geno Smith is a lot more prepared to play than we've been told or both of them look not ready for prime time in Marty M's offense.
I admit to not knowing much of anything about Geno Smith. But as the season nears, I've been looking closer at him. I like what I see. If Sanchez can't cut it this year, I think Geno may be one of those players that exceeds expectations. That's a pretty rare thing for the Jets. He'll need a good nickname though.
"Geno" itself is a nickname in place of his real name Eugene. And while on the subject whats with the Jets drafting kids with nerdy ass names? "so after Quinton's forced fumble was recovered by Sheldon, Eugene will take it on 1st and 10...." Anyway I've been dabbling between GS3 or ES3, since like the RG3 he's the third of his family to take the name. It'll do till something more creative comes along naturally.
