Yup. Sounded extremely mature, confident, and intelligent. He spoke like he could win the job but knew he is competing for it and nothing is going to be given to him. I am loving what Idzik has done. All the rookies got together to study the playbook the night before. Everyone is on the same page and everyone is competing. I can't say enough how desperately this team needed this.
http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2010jclausen.php http://draftbreakdown.com/scouting-report-jimmy-clausen "Questionable character and leadership abilities." "Can be abrasive" Here is what Nawrocki said about quarterback Jimmy Clausen: "Has a sense of entitlement...Arrogant - can come off as having all of the answers and struggle to win a locker room. Still immature. Comes across as overly staged, scripted and disingenuous..." Did the scouts say that Tim Tebow's running ability was just a plus, or did it "define his game"? I think the reporters and scouts who post online articles/write columns are using more hyperbole and venom simply as a method of self promotion in an age of media overabundance.
I am not saying that no white players have ever had scouting reports written that have questioned those things, I am talking about the media not only reporting those characteristics but then writing article upon article attacking the player for them. There is a huge difference between a scouting report questioning those things for Jimmy Clauson and the media coverage that has latched on to those criticisms of Gino Smith and then used them to discredit him and the Jets decision to draft him. this is an issue of media coverage and what they have done with that information, not the opinion of scouts. was Clausen ripped apart by the media for those same attitude issues? I don't recall it, and if not how come?
I have a huge problem with arguments that fit the premise of what you're saying because you're projecting this attitude on to all or most of NFL scouts. Racism is a stereotype categorization to begin with and you've just argued that this exists due to another stereotype categorization that you just created concerning scouts. Many people on this forum watched Geno Smith play and saw things that they didn't like about his game and didn't feel that it would transition well into the NFL. Are they also racists? Last I checked race had nothing to do with arm and vision mechanics. I guess a racist might feel that it does but what you're essentially insinuating is that the racist mentality is blanket across NFL scouts. I don't buy it. The scouts saw the same things in Geno Smith that a lot of fans saw which is a talented but flawed college game. He's an extraordinarily high upside project, rather than a ready to go solution that many people feel high draft picks should be. He's not Andrew Luck OR RGIII. He's not Andy Dalton or Cam Newton. The potential is there but it requires a strong development plan - hence he fell.
In the wake of Smith's draft fall, few in the media have cited to Smith's "arm and vision mechanics," instead referring to character and demeanor issues. I don't think that the poster was talking about this forum, where, in large part, posters use rational thought and set aside race in evaluations. My opinion on whether race impacts scouting isn't yet settled, but I heard a lot more about Geno Smith's texting and supposedly poor attitude than I have about other QB prospects' character concerns (e.g. Tyler Bray's beer bottle vandalism).
I don't care what race our newest QB is just so long as he's not a Republican, isn't engaged to a blonde chick and appears to be "down with the cause" ... oh, wait a minute....wasn't that ESPN... ;-) I mean, in 2013, this b.s. is still in play? Who knows, maybe his paisan 'Geno' moniker will help endear him to the jackwad racist element out there...
Yeah, really? If the guy can play he will become a media darling just as RG3 did and if he can't he will be treated like Tebow was. Everybody should just let it play out.
If we're going to compare the two situations and why Geno's criticism won't die and Clauson's did, that's simply because of who they were drafted by. Clauson went to largely-irrelevant Carolina and Geno went to the biggest media market in the world. Prior to their respective drafts the amount of criticisms the two recieved were about even. If Geno was taken by a smaller market team in the draft, he wouldn't be recieving the same scrutiny that he is getting by being in N.Y. but that's the lay of the land, N.Y. is N.Y...
you also mentioned Mark Sanchez being criticized for these same types of behaviors, and who was also drafted by the Jets, but the NY media did not attack him in this way when he was drafted, so that would seem to dispute it is simply par for the course for the NY media with players with these attitude concerns. so now we are left asking why is Gino Smith different? same media, same team, same position and same attitude concerns, but different treatment.
Cool. He's saying all the right things so far. Gave himself an 'F' for day one of rookie camp. per nj.com
I'm looking forward to seeing what other fan forums come up with in "look-alike" threads. Geno is one funky-looking dude.
The fact is Todd McShay, Ron Jaworski, Mike Mayock, Charles Davis, Mel Kiper and every scout in the media ALL said that Geno aced his off the field pre-draft process. They repeated the only concerns Geno has is on the field concerns about consistency. Never once was work ethic, selfishness, a diva attitude or anything remotely like that even mentioned....until the Jets drafted him. The media turned on Geno so fast after he became a Jet, the stench of media hypocrisy, favoritism, and sensationalism was too overwhelming to be ignored. The Jets draft Geno and its a circus, the Eagles drafted Barkley and they're so smart for giving competition to Mike Vick. Geno falls to the early second round and its all anyone can talk about. Every QB save for Geno EJ and Mike Glennon didn't even get drafted until the 3rd day. Whats that say about them? They mustve fist-f*cked the owners daughter to fall that far if Geno, the most spoiled human being to ever walk earth, fell all the way to early second round.
Seriously what does him texting during the draft have to do with anything? Would they rather have him sit there and jerk off? Would that prove that he cared more about football? That is what 22 year old kids do. I am 22 and I would never text at a job interview but this was not an interview. Does it really matter that he was texting. Its a generational thing. Kids text all the time now.
Agree with this as well. Even watching NFL Network you could tell that they were salivating when they saw that the Jets were drafting Geno. I dont really know why because the difference between Tebow and Geno is huge. But its almost like they are trying to extend the circus atmosphere because they know that it sells.
the league isnt ready for a black qb yet? it does make you wonder how the storm formed for him. i also think we as fans feed into the shit that the media spews on things like this. comment their drivel telling them to grow up and hope they listen i guess.
Interesting take on Geno Smith and QBs Interesting that the thing predicted Russell Wilson and RG3 having such great seasons. And yes I think that they had better rookie seasons than Luck who threw for tons of interceptions and this had him at the lowest ranking of the 3.
This post nails it. There was no hint of any of Smith's off the field issues until he was drafted by the Jets. If any other team had taken him, we would be hearing comparisons to Aaron Rodgers. Instead, the Jets pick him and he's Ryan Leaf.
