wheres the hype? geno is a 2nd round pick that was called the best qb of a bad class. this is a very ignorant post
I really don't understand my felllow Jets fan sometimes. Geno at #39 overall is a GREAT PICK. It was not a reach at all. Even if he does not pan out it is not like we wasted a cache of picks to trade up and get him. We lost nothing and gained a lot. The kid is very accurate and has legs to extend a play. If he needs a year before he is ready then so be it, Mark has earned at least 1 more year to justify why he should be a starter(IMO, some others on this board will clearly disagree). However if Geno wins the starting job, he could be the fire this offense needs.
Let us know when you having something about football to post. You sound like a daily news reporter dreaming up drama story lines.
Geno was and is a great value pick, regardless of how he does his rookie year. I don't know why people are being so hard on him.
I hear you on this one, however if your Idzik you need to right this ship and FAST. If the best overall QB in entire draft is there for you in the second round and your QB situation is shaky, you take that pick. He did the right thing. Bridgewater and Manziel are not guaranteed to come out next year. So if they decided to play one more year (very possible) and your left with who... Mark Sanchez, Garrard and McElroy? Idzik did the right thing, Geno may be a great QB you never know. Let this competition ride out.
Yeah, the pick was a no-brainer. No NFL team can ever go into a season without having a guy on the roster that they can point too as the potential franchise guy. Sanchez has worn out that possibility at this point. If a team has everything else lined up they can manage a caretaker situation for a year and profit while doing it.
I've got more hope for Geno than I did for Kellen Lemons Clemens. Although after the pope kissed Clemens daughter I thought maybe his luck would change. But either way, Geno was a second round pick. If he becomes a better backup than Sackelroy, it will have all worked out well enough. Of course I'm hoping he lights it up and becomes great, but I won't hold my breath...
Geno Smith and Kellen Clemens are different levels of prospect. Smith is a 1st rounder who fell. Clemens was a 3rd or 4th rounder who got over-drafted. He was having a breakout senior season in the spread when he broke the ankle. The Jets drafted him in the 2nd anyway.
Maybe so, but Smith was a 1st round prospect of a supposed bad QB class. If the end result is we get a mediocre player out of a 2nd round pick, it win't be like we as Jets fans haven't experienced that before.
Sanchez the man who posed for GQ, dated supermodels, and enjoyed the NY life doing commercials and magazines is not flashy? Interesting biased take you have. If you are going to make a ridiculous point like this, please realize Sanchez falls into the flashy breed of QB. Meanwhile, what is flashy of Geno? Nothing really yet. So you're just spouting some nonsense until you have points to back it up. A lot of people (annoyed SEC fans) called Cam SCAM, out of NFL fans who don't pay attention to the SEC/college, they don't call Cam that. Cam Newton all hype who then went on to win the rookie of the year? I would say he met his college hype in his first year, and hit a sophomore slump. He has a ways to go to become a great QB, but certainly is on a solid path right now.
You're right that the context matters. That said I really think that the 2013 QB class is better than they're currently seen to be. They suffer from the comparison to 2012 more than anything else. Andrew Luck and RGIII were hyped beyond belief last year. Russell Wilson arrived on a loaded team and led them well. That's going to make an impact on how people see the QB's the next year. There were no obvious Luck/RGIII level candidates this year. I think probably 3 decent NFL QB's came out of this draft. Very possibly one or two great ones. I don't know for sure who those guys are but Geno Smith has a pretty good chance to be one of them. Aaron Rodgers is arguably the best QB at a time when we have several truly great QB's playing. He came out of a QB draft that made the NFL turn it's collective nose up. His sin and the sin of that class was that they weren't Eli, Roethlisberger and Rivers.
So in the same article the author states Carolina can't win because Newton's deficiencies can't be overcome and later in the article states that the Panthers have the worst personnel in the division. Talk about disingenuous. When will football writers realize that this is a team sport and QB wins and losses are based on team performance and not just the QB.
They'll realize this when people who are good at analysis become sports writers. That's not currently the case. Real time sports reporting is currently dominated by people who are interested in getting a lot of copy out so they can sell. The amount of time that it takes to really analyse what is going on is hard to justify in that context. What somebody in the mass media needs to do is to couple a few analysts with a writer who is the brand. Then the writer can become the focal point for really valuable news because he or she has a couple of people behind the scene doing the research and crunching numbers for them. This is what is happening on the internet with sites like Football Outsiders at this point. The breakthrough that is missing is that the news outlets are not doing much real analysis and the analytical sites are not promoting great writers to further the brand. At the moment this is an uneasy balancing point for sports media as a whole. ESPN has tried to bundle the whole package but the pressure on them to sell is so heavy that it all breaks down in real time. Faced with the need to either provide great analysis or provide material that sells well ESPN will always go to the sells well side in a crunch. This is why ESPN isn't leading the charge on the "Tim Tebow is a hoax of a QB" front. Instead they are trying to sell his mass appeal. You cannot do both at once. My prediction would be that in the future the tabloids and mass media outlets will become even more of a soap opera than they currently are and they will be slowly pushed to the side by the analytical sites as those sites find and promote great writers to explain their numbers and what they mean.
From Rotoworld, ESPN's Ron Jaworski said Geno Smith was the only quarterback he had with a first-round grade in the draft. "I think he's going to be a terrific NFL quarterback," Jaworski said. "When I went to Morgantown and watched his workout I was blown away." Smith has gotten nothing but negative press since the draft, much of it from his fired agents. This positive review from one of the game's premier quarterback analysts gives Jets fans a little something to hang their hats on.
By BRIAN COSTELLO Last Updated: 10:47 AM, May 9, 2013 Posted: 1:58 AM, May 9, 2013 Jets Blog West Virginia offensive coordinator Shannon Dawson has heard the words thrown around to describe his former protégé Geno Smith — brat ... gimmick ... coddled ... marginal work ethic — and wonders if they’re talking about the same quarterback he coached for two years. “I never got the sense he was a diva or pampered or anything in my involvement with him,” Dawson said. “I never had one problem with him other than he watched too much film.” Smith has been under siege from anonymous sources questioning everything from his focus to how he handled pre-draft interviews. Things have heated up in the two weeks since the Jets drafted him in the second round. After he fired his agents, reports by Yahoo and ESPN quoted anonymous league executives and scouts criticizing Smith. Friday, he steps on the field for the Jets rookie minicamp to begin his attempt to make those critics look wrong and the Jets front office look smart. “He’s going to play for a long time,” Dawson said this week. “I think the Jets are going to be more than happy that they have him. He’s going to work his [butt] off. It’s almost a positive for the Jets organization because if everything would have went smooth and he had been picked in the top five he probably wouldn’t be as motivated as he is right now. “In my talks with him after the draft, he’s so fired up right now to prove this [jerk] wrong that he’s going to work and do it.” Former NFL quarterback and current ESPN analyst Ron Jaworski agrees. Jaworski spent time with Smith before the 2012 Orange Bowl, which he broadcast and then attended his pro day at West Virginia this year. He also studied all of Smith’s 2012 games. “I think he’s going to be a terrific NFL quarterback,” Jaworski said. Jaworski said he saw inconsistencies in Smith’s game last year, but that is normal for every quarterback prospect short of John Elway, Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck. “When I went to Morgantown and watched his workout I was blown away,” Jaworski said. “I thought he was tremendous. ... It was clinical. It was surgical. He did a lot of really, really good things.” Jaworski said Smith was the only quarterback he had with a first-round grade in this draft. He said in speaking with people around the league he never heard any questions about Smith’s character. Dawson saw Smith throw for 4,201 yards, 42 touchdowns and just six interceptions last season. He said those numbers didn’t happen by accident and wonders who is trying to tear Smith down before he even gets an NFL practice snap. “I honestly don’t know where it all comes from,” Dawson said. “The kid worked on his game probably more than anybody I’ve ever been around. ... He would watch film of all these NFL quarterbacks trying to emulate them and go out and work as hard as he could to make himself better. He would try to find areas in his game that were weak ... and he busted his [butt] and got better in those areas. I don’t see it. It baffles me really.”
Yes. I know. I still don't like Geno Smith pick. But that doesn't mean I don't understand the logic behind it. Just, I have a competing reasons behind. Also, since the kid is a Jet now, he will have my support until either he wears it out a la Nacho, or he leaves the Jets. As for value, Geno Smith pick was an epic slam dunk. No trade ups/picks thrown away for possibly the best QB prospect of the year, and that came with 2nd round pick. Good pick all around.
I think someone mentioned this earlier but the more you think about it what Eli did in that 2004 draft would never fly with a quarterback like Geno or Cam. They would been ripped to shreds, Eli basically demanded a trade b4 he put on the chargers cap.
