The Geno Smith "Era" (Official Geno Thread) - All Geno Talk in here!

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  1. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Skepticism is fine but we have supposed Jets fans who are rooting for Smith to fail. If you're rooting for Smith to fail or hoping he never gets on the field you're rooting for a scenario that is going to cause the Jets some real hardships.

    The only way the Jets come out of the Smith pick absolutely whole is that he succeeds. In any other scenario they've got some issues.

    I'm rooting for him to pass for 6,116 yards next season and 60 TD's. It probably won't happen but at least I'm rooting for a result that we'd all love to see come true. Well, at least most of us.
     
  2. Falco21

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    Check my most recent post. I just said this same thing. It blows my mind
     
  3. GoldenShowers

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    Hoping a kid fails and knowing he will are two different things.

    I want to win a superbowl. You need an ELITE QB and/or a ton of luck to
    Do that. I don't see Smith ever being good enough, and they could have used that pick to fill other holes until a real QB came along.

    When this kid fails to be the franchise QB that desperate Jets fans are imagining him as, will you apologize?
     
  4. SackExchange69

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    Why is he going to cry or are you afraid he is going to take his ball and go home?
     
  5. laxin

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    Are you seriously buying into that shit? Do you realize the source? Cmon, man. Are you really giving Mehta that much power. The dude is a total hack.
     
  6. Noam

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    I was not a fan of drafting Smith but I am all for him now that we have him. I just hope they let him sit and learn behind a smart veteran like Garrard for a year or two.

    The media is now looking for a reason why he dropped from where they had him anointed to be picked. So they can say he dropped because of fill in the blank. Plus anything that casts the Jets as a circus people will read. I hope the kid has some thick skin.

    I hope he does very well but if he is not good I hope he fails miserably. The worst thing IMO would be for him to be average or below average and then we are stuck with him for many years hoping he will get better.
     
  7. Br4d

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    You cannot know that Geno will fail. If you think you have absolute knowledge of what is going to happen with him you're just being arrogant.

    If you wanted to win a Super Bowl, really wanted to win a Super Bowl, you'd wait until you had hard evidence in front of you that Geno Smith wasn't going to do that with the Jets.

    Making statements that there's no way the Jets can go anywhere with Geno is just stupid given they got to the AFC championship game back to back years with Mark Sanchez.

    Real QB's don't just come along. You go out and find them. Often when you want one there isn't anybody close to the value to be found.

    You think Dan Marino lasted to be the 6th QB taken in 1983 because everybody thought he was great but the other guys were greater? Dan Marino lasted to the 6th QB taken because people had real concerns about his temperament and the way he carried himself off the field.

    Marino was considered a major risk because of rumors of drug use. Many analysts at the time doubted Don Shula's ability to help Marino overcome the personal off the field issues he was widely perceived to have.

    You do not stand still on a vacant QB situation and before the Jets got Smith they had a vacancy opening up and nobody to fill it.
     
  8. CasinoBlitz

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    I don't know if people are "hoping" he's a selfish prick or bad selection. I think that's just what people feel about him given the info out there - the scathing report from Nawrocki, the articles coming out from Yahoo with criticism from personnel guys, the firing of his agent, and ultimately the game film. He put up sick numbers but that is not indicative of future NFL success. He struggled with his intermediate and deep accuracy. His stats were padded by throwing hitches, slants, screens to Tavon Austin and letting him get a ton of YAC.
     
  9. GoldenShowers

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    Geno Smith is a mirage. He dropped bc not a SINGLE QB IN HISTORY who has come from that offensive system has been able to be even decent in the NFL.
     
  10. JetBlue

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    and knowing a kid will fail and speculating he will fail are two entirely different things.

    your self proclaimed knowledge is backed by zero evidence of credibility on the matter, so it isn't knowledge it is a guess. if you were such a knowledgeable evaluator of NFL talent you would have proclaimed Russel Wilson and Tom Brady likely NFL stars before they were drafted, but like everyone else, you didn't. and the reason why you didn't is the same reason why you have no idea whether Smith will be any good -- because you don't know shit.

    so, if your guess about his future turns out to be right, nobody is going to apologize to you, because a lucky guess isn't the same as being right.
     
  11. Jeti

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    I wish I had powers to ban these dudes, they're flooding the board with the same shit every day
     
  12. Br4d

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    He didn't come from that system though. He played in it the last two years but he would have been a likely 1st round pick if he just repeated his sophomore season, which was not in the Air Raid system, twice more.

    In some ways playing in the Air Raid hurt him more than it helped him because it helped people ignore things like 23 completions in 24 attempts and 45 completions in 51 attempts and 34 completions in 39 attempts.

    He went to Kansas with a bowl berth on the line after a horrid losing streak and went 23 for 24 for 407 yards. That's a 95.8 completion percentage.

    You want to say that a lot of his completions were bubble screens and short slants and quickouts? Fine. How many pro QB's can complete 90% of their gimmes on a regular basis?
     
  13. laxin

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    Good post. I agree and am pretty baffled by the huge attention he is drawing and the negativity from the fanbase.


    Ive said this since January- our best chance at reaching sustained success quickly, is by draft Geno Smith and developing him into a franchise QB. We, as fans, have better get behind this guy. There's no reason not to. He could be a bust, sure, but he could also be our franchise QB.
     
  14. TNJet

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    I believe Geno will be fine. Rex just has to give up the lovefest with mark.
     
  15. laxin

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    Clearly you are extremely biased here, I mean look at your username. We didnt trade Revis for Richardson straight up. If you look at it through a vacuum, sure. But if you arent actually that ignorant, you can realize that Idzik and the Jets were put in a shitty position by Tanny. Idzik maximized Revis' value based on the market (or lack there of) and got a 1st round pick for him this year and a 3rd next year, instead of just a 3rd next year for him walking in FA. Also, we saved about 13 million a year (Revis's contract minus Milliner's) and that money can be used next year in FA to surround our hopeful franchise QB with some weapons.

    How do you know Geno isnt the answer? Just because you are being bitchy and are pissed that the Jets traded your favorite player?
     
  16. laxin

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    Honestly, when are you going to stop posting here? I think Ive read about 100 posts of yours within the last 3 days that convey the same bullshit answer that Geno Smith is an Air-raid QB, and therefore he will not succeed.

    Bradway has shut you down on multiple occasions. Just stop.
     
  17. displacedfan

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    Darksider, I'm gunning for 7,777 yards and 80 TDs.

    Yep, sustained success you need a QB who can help your team week in and week out. Geno provides a new player, an unknown, to build into that player
     
  18. Jeti

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    2 months ago, guys were saying if Geno is there @ 9 we gotta take him but he wont be there anyway so its a moot point then we get him @ 39 the media does their thing, fans fall for it and now he's a fragile minded bust

    cant deal cant deal
     
  19. Snatch Catch

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    This is the over-arching point that many people are refusing to entertain so that they can establish pole position in being right on the internet about Geno.
     
  20. laxin

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    I still would have taken him at 9 or 13, thats just me.
     

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