With the new rookie wage scale I don't see the issue here. The Jets should stick to their draft board. If we have a QB graded out as the highest player on our board when we pick unless we get a trade offer out we should make the pick. BAP is BAP.
After high school it takes about 14 years of education and residency to become a doctor. Lawyers have to go through three grueling years of post graduate education and the bar exam. General managers and scouts, not so much. It is true these professionals have more time and resources to develop their expertise than the average fan. With that being said, do not underestimate that level of knowledge that some board members have obtained over the decades that they have been following the sport. We have seen a lot of coaches and general managers come and go. Sometimes these guys have done amazing things to help our ball club that many of us would never have predicted (Parcells comes to mind) while others have been correctly called out by knowledgeable fans for having their head up their ass (Kotite, Coslet, etc.). There are tons of posters with lots of opinions who do not really know what they are talking about but if you hang around long enough I think you will be impressed with just how much some of the guys here seem to know. Just because the professionals are in charge of the Jets does not always mean that they are right.
Unless you are getting Bridgewater or maybe Bortles, stay away from qbs. With the receiving crew that the Jets have it would take a Bridgewater level of talent for them to look remotely decent. Get a receiving threat or the Jets set themselves back again.
I would say we avoid an early round QB in the draft this year. We need to get playmakers for Geno, whether through the draft or FA, but we need to see if he can develop and take the next step with top flight talent. This is why I was all aboard trading for Gordon -- not just a win-now type move, but a future move as well.
We have a ton of draft picks and cap space. Jets management is paid to evaluate and make choices. Teams get in big trouble when they work the draft for need. The new wage scale for rookies makes it a low risk move to add a QB who management thinks could be a big time player. Talented QB's also have value to other teams. Until the Jets are set on a QB the Jets shouldn't walk away from their draft board. I don't know where we are drafting and if Bridgewater is available if he will be on top of our board. This still has a long way to play out. The Jets moved up to draft a WR last year. How did drafting for need work out?
You do realize, if you draft a qb in the first round you are basically telling your current qb was a rookie the year before that you have no confidence him. Depending on the record, lets say 8-8, that is a confidence destroyer. Not how you build franchises. Lets say said rookie starts and stinks it up his rookie year or plays as well with Geno has, you are setting yourself back. Continuity is extremely important to success as a team. If the jets go to the playoffs, you get a veteran during the off season and you start Geno next year
I don't think that's the case anymore. The new rookie wage scale allows for a much more competitive environment. Before the change you couldn't possibly draft two high value QB's 2 consecutive years because it would bankrupt the team. If the Jets view Geno as a can't miss franchise QB after this season and a QB is at the top of our board we should consider trading out. Otherwise I don't see the issue in having a little competition. The Jets over the years haven't really had an A QB they drafted come in and make anyone believe the QB situation was settled. We made the error with Pennington, Clemens and Sanchez. We have a new rookie wage scale. It changes the entire landscape in drafting QB's. We should embrace it until we have our QB.
Concur with your premise, just not so sure anyone had Clemens pegged as a QB anyone was really settled on. A second rounder, but I don't think anyone looked at him like we're looking Geno. _
The Jets should take BPA on their board whoever that happens to be. If it's a QB it's a QB. It's not like good young QB's don't have the trade value because they have more than any other position, they just don't move very often because until recently teams in the cap era didn't have two good young QB's on the team. If Geno is going gang-busters by the end of the year and the Jets have a QB at the top of their board on their pick they should take the guy. Geno is going to beat him out in training camp because he has the year under his belt. Then in 2015 that guy is going to have huge trade value in a lesser QB draft. And if Geno can't beat the guy out? Well you want to know that with somebody better than him on the depth chart. If he gets hurt there's a big upside in having the second QB also. If somebody else is higher on the Jets chart then they take the guy but if a QB is there, well they take the guy.
Not to mention its always good to have a backup QB who can actually play as injury insurance. I agree with your draft philosophy and I think Idzik will do that. This draft class is turning out to be pretty impressive so far with the amount of production from them.
WB, Not only am I skeptical of going pure BPA, I don't think the vast majority of NFL teams go pure BPA, either. So, is it Best Available Player or Best Player Available? I guess they both work.
For example, in the coming off season and assuming he stays healthy and performs well, do the Colts pick a Qb to compete with Luck just because their draft board says the BPA at their spot is a Qb? Doubt it.
The smart move in that case is to trade out. Presumably if the Colts turn comes up and there is a solid QB who's best player on the board there will be many teams ready to offer a value trade. If there is more than one team you might get more value then the pick is worth. If Geno proves to be a sure thing in the next 7 games the Jets should do the same. This is exactly what a good GM and scouting department is all about. The roster has to be managed. I'm going on the assumption that Geno will be somewhere further along then Sanchez in year 1 but not a sure thing. In that case if a QB is on the top of our board why wouldn't we take it? If Geno hasn't closed the sale and when we come to draft their is a QB that management is sold on there should be no question about taking the QB.
If they did it wouldn't be to compete but more as a competent backup. Such as what Washington did drafting RGIII and then Kirk Cousins, having a more than competent backup in this league is starting to become a mandatory thing. Green Bay could be in serious trouble now with the Rodgers injury and terrible backups. The bigger issue with BPA is if you had a Franchise QB like Luck and in the first round you had a QB as the BPA do you still take him. That's the million dollar question and I would think that you don't, you just move to the next player on your board. For the first round anyway.
So basically what your saying in these last 7 games, Geno needs to sell himself to ensure you that the franchise does not need to draft a qb in the first round? I can see that, thats fair
Look at rams and packers, seasons are effectively over with no back up plan Geno also needs a veteran to learn from
Unless Geno Smith starts playing like Ryan Lindley. I'm not drafting a QB next year. That pick could be used to shore up other positions of need.
I don't think he has to sell himself to the fan base. The key is what does Idzik, Morningwig and Rex think? Selling himself may just mean they like his development but not where he's actually at. He could really stink it up in our eyes and management may be looking at a completely different criteria for their evaluation? This is what separates top organizations from everyone else. Evaluation and coaching players up to those evaluations.
