The Geno Smith "Era" (Official Geno Thread) - All Geno Talk in here!

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  1. TonyMaC

    TonyMaC Well-Known Member

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    This is such a backwards way of looking at things, he wasn't asked to do much through the air by adaptive design. Running was working and after a while time was needed to be shed off the clock, so they ran a lot.

    there was no need to air it out or rely heavily on the QB, so they didn't.

    Just because he didn't get a lot of fantasy points through his stats doesn't mean he did poorly or anything.
     
  2. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I love when people post blind stats as if they tell us everything we need to know. Comical.
     
  3. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Nelson, Salas and Stephen Hill are stars no one can get them the ball! Imagine having a top 3 QB play for us! Man the offense would be great!

    About 25 other teams wish they had Brees at QB.
     
  4. MenOverGod

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    The way Ivory was playing, Geno didn't have to do much. If we were to start throwing the ball with the way Ivory was playing everyone would be complaining that MM was back to his pass happy self. Geno didn't turn the ball over and had a rushing TD.


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  5. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    This is the truth.

    The Jets were facing a mediocre run defense that was selling out in the pass rush with blitzers on almost every down.

    Marty Mornhinweg looked at that and decided to take what the defense was giving him instead of doing what he most wanted to do. That's the mark of a great coach and strategist.
     
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    Bizarro Schotty?!?
     
  7. stinkyB

    stinkyB 2009 Best Avatar Award Winner

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    This is retarded on so many levels......
     
  8. Acad23

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    I love it too...but not as much as when you predict how many wins we'd have had with Sanchez under center.

    Although I've noticed you've gotten out of that habit as of late...
     
  9. OverloadBlitz

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    No way, they were selling out to stop the run hard, 8-9 man boxes all night they just had no gap discipline and let Ivory break it outside. Rob Ryan said it best, everyone knew we were going to run the ball they just couldn't stop it.
     
  10. 85inthehall

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    I know people want to buy into Geno and say this guy is he franchise QB...but he isn't. The team has 5 wins which is great, but Geno has really only been solid in 1 game - that was the Atlanta game. Aside from the game every week is an adventure. He only has 8 passing TDs through 9 games and 13 turnovers with 6 fumbles. The deep ball everyone was all wow about hasn't been seen since week3. He is now under 60% competition on the season. If you see this and don't see a mirror version of Sanchez as a rookie I don't know what you are looking at. The Jets can't pass up a loaded QB class in the draft in hope that in 3 or 4 years Smith will develop into something more than what he is..a game manager in training that the coaches seem to be a bit scared of.
     
  11. Matt4776

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    In Mark Sanchez' rookie year, he had Braylon Edwards, Jerricho Cotchery, Dustin Keller, Thomas Jones, a fresh Shonn Greene, Tony Richardson, and the best OL in football.

    Geno Smith has a mediocre and inconsistent OL, David Nelson, Greg Salas, and Stephen Hill.

    In addition, Sanchez had promise his first year. His problem was he never improved and never corrected the mistakes he made his rookie year.

    Geno has already shown way more promise than Mark ever did. The thing is whether or not Mark actually progresses and improves upon his rookie year. Mark never did.
     
  12. Acad23

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    True....to a point.

    If there is a quality pick at our slot then yes, you take the shot.

    Geno has 7 more games to make that decision tougher.

    Sanchez had 4 years to make that decision easy.
     
  13. James Hasty

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    You forgot to give special mention to the behind the back butt fumble.
     
  14. Frenbar

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    It's funny how Muck supporters keep bringing up that nonsense. Go watch Geno fumble the ball and then watch Sanchez lower his head and run blindly into man-ass. Not only was Sanchez's play much more embarrassing, it perfectly encapsulated his entire dog shit tenure as a dog shit QB.
     
  15. BakerMaker

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    I hate these selective stats. You only bring up his passing TDs but no rushing TDs yet have no qualm about bringing up his INTs and fumbles? Do his rushing TDs now not count and the credit goes all on the OLine and playcalling?

    The reason the deep ball hasn't been seen(By the way, he got Nelson on a deep pass vs the Pats even if Nelson made a damn good grab on it...Geno gave Nelson a chance to make a sensational play. He also had a 20+ yard completion to Sudfeld/Nelson on Sunday if I recall? He hit Cumberland on a bomb vs the Falcons too...might have been twice.) is because Hill is having trouble with routes and outside of him, none of our other WR's post Santonio injury have the speed to make the deep ball an option.

    Some people have no patience. Why would a Tajh Boyd or Stephen Morris or Johnny Manziel or Aaron Murray suddenly be upgrades over Geno? What proof do you have to say this? At least Geno will have a year under his belt and we can actually address getting some skill position players early and often in the draft. I seriously doubt Idzik gives up on a high 2nd round pick like Geno so soon as he seems to be the type of GM who cherishes his picks/youth if the way he handled this past offseason is any indication(Signing released players to not lose any Comp. picks owed by next draft)

    He's not a game manager....this was the 1st game he played anything like this. He takes risks and makes stuff happen, for better or for worse. That's what rookies do. Luck had a high INT total last year(He threw for more TDs granted but we play a different style of tempo than what the Colts did last year) because he took tons of risks down the field.
     
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    He forgot to mention the FOUR comeback from behind wins Geno has under his belt in just 9 games, including games where our D gave up a lead(Vs TB, vs ATL, vs BUF, vs NE)
     
  17. Jeti

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    IF they feel Geno isn't the guy, IF, then we could get a 1st rounder for him on that contract and the strides he's made

    nonetheless he's the guy for now
     
  18. TonyMaC

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    if he's worth a first rounder, we're keeping him.

    why start from scratch in that scenario? We need a franchise QB, if he's so good another team presumably in need of a young QB wants him and is willing to give up their first pick for him, why would we take that offer just so we can presumably get another QB?

    seems like a waste of time.
     
  19. Mitch_Dumstein

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    So wait....Smith leads the Jets to a HUGE upset win over the Division leading Saints two weeks after doing the same against the Division leading Pats....

    And in the Saints game commits ZERO turnovers too

    And yet we have a whole discussion a day later about getting rid of him because he's "not the guy" and "he only had one solid game against Atlanta"....

    And worst of them all, some posting butthead bringing up the "behind the back buttfumble"

    Pathetic

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  20. James Hasty

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    You're the butt head.

    The (behind the back) butt fumble is part of Geno's performance this season and is very much a part of this discussion.

    Just because you think Geno is doing good or bad does not mean that you can pick and choose only those plays supporting your position and just act like the rest of the plays never happened.
     

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