The Geno Smith "Era" (Official Geno Thread) - All Geno Talk in here!

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  1. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

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    I don't think they'd even consider parting with him--we'll never offer a 1 or a 2 and they'd never take anything less. Rams were a bad suggestion--all their WRs are pretty young and talented.

    If we do want a guy like Braylon Edwards--I do know of one guy who is currently unsigned and fits that bill, one would say, perfectly :grin:

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  2. WhySoSerious488

    WhySoSerious488 Well-Known Member

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    Out of those teams, only Blackmon, Jennings, or V. Jackson would be a big help. Jags are not going to trade Blackmon with Bridgewater in their on-deck circle. Vikings just signed Jennings to big money and after winning last week believe they can get back in the NFC playoff picture.

    V. Jackson is the most plausible target, but with Schiano's tenuous job security, would they trade arguably his best weapon on offense? That would be a tanking move (which probably makes sense for the team long-term, but not for Schiano).
     
  3. NoodleArm

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    Either (or both) of those options wouldn't really bother me. VJax would be nice, but that all depends upon the asking price. Don't think that the Jets will get Bray-bray back considering that they've got Nelson and are thinking about bringing Cribbs on board. These two players fit the mold of young, talented who've got no long term cost/risk for the team.

    Along these lines, Britt does make some sense IF the price is right. He's certainly young and talented, but he's got a lot of baggage and risk associated with him. Currently, the Titans are getting zero (0) production from him being on the sidelines, and it's clear that the current regime has moved on. If the Jets' FO thinks that they can compete this year, maybe they make an offer for him with a conditional pick based resigning and the number of snaps Britt plays.

    Honestly, it's more likely that the Jets stand pat and try off-the-street talent like Nelson and Cribbs. Idzik seems to like cheap, young talent a chance to perform. If there's no move before the bye and the receiving corp is still in shambles, then we can safely assume that the FO has written the season off as a rebuilding year. Then we'll see if Smith, like Ryan, can turn chicken shit into chicken salad.
     
  4. tcw722

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    Brian Costello ‏@BrianCoz 35m

    Rex says he's thinking about doing the green/yellow/red thing with Geno that he used with Sanchez in 2009 #nyj
     
  5. JStokes

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    I don't believe it.

    Only the worst QB in the history of the planet would need such a gimmick.

    Right?

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  6. Biggs

    Biggs Well-Known Member

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    They should write "Don't turn the ball over dipshit" on the back of Mangold's pants.
     
  7. Poeman

    Poeman Well-Known Member

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    That would be a bad fucking idea Rex...............Stick with trial by fire
     
  8. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Well, seeing as how green/yellow/red worked so well the first time, well...
     
  9. Noam

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    Whatever works is fine. The reason it might work for Geno where it did not work for Sanchez is all of Geno's turnovers so far are from trying to do to much. While Sanchez's were almost always from freezing up and panicking. Basically being to scared to think.

    I am not sure how a QB can throw the kind of passes that MM has been calling and not take some kind of risk. Deep passe are high risk. But anything that encourages better decisions, more thought and less risk is a very good thing. He does not appear to be the kind of kid so far that will let criticism and negativity bother him like Sanchez.

    what is scary to me is with our upcoming schedule we could be 2-7 very quickly going into the bye week. Pitt will be angry and coming off a bye week. NO, NE, Cin and ATL are very hard games for us to win. Things are getting ugly right now with the fans and media for the Jets and Geno. One can only imagine how bad it will be if we end up 2-7. Which is a very real if not probable possibility. We will be underdogs or big underdogs in everyone of these next 5 games.
     
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    Seth Walder ‏@SethWalderNYDN 1m

    Rex, on ESPN Radio, on not naming Geno starting QB for season: "I don’t see what the positive would be about it." #nyj
     
  11. JStokes

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    LOL. Amazing insight right there. :rolleyes:

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  12. Noam

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    No problem, I am happy to help you learn the game sonny. if you ask around there are lots of helpful people here who can give you good advice as well.
     
  13. NewYorkEveryThing

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    I am actually wondering how geno even won a game? All our main Wrs all took too injury so far and missed games. kerley missed the pats game which we needed him . Holmes missed our 1st,2nd and now probably the next 3-5 weeks. Hill missed all of last weeks game and is gonna have to wait a few games till he can get cleared. We have no good TE's. 1 good RB in powell and 1 horrible one in green. How can geno develop with this mess of a offense? How many false starts or holding calls by vlad before he takes a seat?
     
  14. Frenbar

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    I agree with this. Obviously you have to talk to Geno and tell him to protect the football more, and tuck it away when he is scrambling, but he has shown signs of being good, and I'd let him take his lumps and try to learn. If he doesn't show improvement over the course of the season and start protecting the ball better then we can start judging him. It's just too bad the Jets didn't name him the starter day 1 instead of that charade with Muck. Getting all the first team snaps and reps would have had him better prepared to start.
     
  15. Harpua

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    ... Or we can let Geno learn the most important lesson in football. If no one is open, don't force the damn ball in there. Perhaps he could Throw it away, tuck and run, or even take a sack, but for Christ's sake, don't force it into double coverage.

    Learn to protect the ball and your ahead of Sanchez. Continue to be a turnover machine an it would not matter who starts.
     
  16. macbk

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    It worked for Sanchez in 2009.

    /sarcasm

    Don't baby Geno with this color code BS. Just drill it into his head in practice not to force throws, and to hold the ball with two hands if he is ever gonna scramble/go down for a sack.
     
  17. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Will you do it by quoting stats invented by ESPN that didn't exist before this year and are entirely subjective?

    That would be cute.
     
  18. macbk

    macbk Well-Known Member

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    Well, there goes that.

    http://www.dailyfreeman.com/articles/2013/10/02/sports/doc524c83b31103c489274187.txt
     
  19. Noam

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    If your talking about BDR which you seem not to like as this seems to be your second criticism of this stat. BDR has been around for many years not one year. At least all of his Sanchez's career BDR has been used. While I do share your disdain of many of the made up stats such as QBR I do not have the same disdain for BDR as it has been quite predictive of bad play.

    BDR was used to evaluate Sanchez's 2010 season and along with other indications such as leading the league in dropped INTs with 15 which was 6 more than the second luckiest QB in the league that year and with the Jets recovering 8 of the 9 fumbles by Sanchez that year it was not hard to predict or see that once the training wheels were taken off Sanchez in 2011 he would implode. BDR was a very useful statistic as it showed that Sanchez was making very bad decisions even though he was quite fortunate in 2010 on the dropped INTs and recovered fumbles.

    I know its easy to bend or abuse any statistic to twist a poor argument. There is no better answer example of this than a Junc post. But combined with other stats, indicators, evaluation many so called new stats can be very useful. The trick is like anything else not to hang your hat on one stat but look at the whole of available information including the most important information that which you see with your eyes. Often time new stats can confirm what you see or hear from other stats or raise red flags that the stat is not saying hat it appears to be saying. BDR is a great stat as it shows not the outcome which can often be luck based but attempts to remove the luck factor from the result of the play. Although it does not measure the magnitude of the bad decisions or put those decisions into context. In other words like any other stat it can be Junced or Hobbesed. But then again all stats old or new can and will be taken out of context. Geno for example may have a very low BDR which in of itself means he is mostly making good decisions but it does not mean he is playing well by itself without looking at the magnitude of those bad decisions and his overall play. It is just one tool or piece of information to look at among many.
     
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  20. 101GangGreen101

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    That fucking wristband bullshit again - leave the offense to Marty Rex, because that shit didn't work with Mark and it won't work with Geno.
     

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