The Geno Smith "Era" (Official Geno Thread) - All Geno Talk in here!

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  1. AK-JETS4Life

    AK-JETS4Life Active Member

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    People think that every rookie QB has to have a year like Russell Wilson, RG3, and Andrew Luck. Come on now.
     
  2. pdxdrew

    pdxdrew Well-Known Member

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    Well why can't we have a decent year with a quarterback, not like the last two. Just an okay one, not where the QB throws 3 intercetions, turns the ball over X amount of times. I mean Geno is a rookie. I get it. I get it. Can't you just play like a little better next game?? Please.....
     
  3. johnny

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    How can it be hyperbole? JStokes, don't you know that in four games Smith has thrown more quality passes into the hands of his receivers than Sanchez did in hour years. Of course, that would have to meant that all of Smith's completions were "spot on" whereas less than ~8% of Sanchez's 1000+ (regular season) completions were put where the ball was supposed to be. Of course, that would be consistent with Sanchez never completing a pass to a covered receiver or never coming back after mistakes. I guess Sanchez has zero fourth quarter wins after throwing an interception. I also must have missed all those Jet All-Pro WR 's catching passes that we 90% shit after getting open on nearly every play. After leaving the Jets I'm sure they have gone on to such stellar careers at their new teams (Sarcasm off).

    Of course, my post does not claim that Sanchez was a good QB (although he did have his moments). Just trying to point out that a few people make declarative statements that are indeed "over the top".
     
  4. AK-JETS4Life

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    If you are asking for a decent year, this is probably not the year you are looking for. We are rebuilding, not stacking our roster in hope for a 1 hit wonder at the superbowl.
     
  5. cval

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    Just as i thought sanchez needed a benching at times Geno needs a benching now. The problem is as it was for mark we don't have a real backup
     
  6. RubenDias

    RubenDias Well-Known Member

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    Yes lets bench a 4 games debut in the nfl in a rebuilding year, like that we wont see his full potential trough the season to make a decission for next years draft.
    Logical.
     
  7. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Uh no, you stay the course with Geno. Sanchez needed a benching 4 years into the league - that's usually not a good sign.
     
  8. cval

    cval Well-Known Member

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    Says who? There is no such thing in todays NFL.
     
  9. cval

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    No Sanchez needed a benching his rookie year also.
     
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    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    He was a rookie, you don't bench rookie QBs, if they are suppose to be the guy. Besides Mark his rookie year ended the season pretty decently.
     
  11. jilozzo

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    i respectfully disagree with the part about benching a rookie QB - since when is a rookie QB untouchable. there definitely is a point at which he needs to take a seat and gather his head. now i dont know if thats after a 3 turnover first half, a 15 turnover 5 game stretch, or something else that is clearly causing the team a chance to get a W.

    granted in the jets situation they have convinced themselves there is no viable alternative in simms so the leash is longer for smith - which is another topic by itself ;).

    i thought he should have been pulled last sunday somewhere inside of 10 minutes to go in Q4. sit back and relax. let simms get some snaps. and u come right back to smith on monday. now it is possible that idzik has a mandate in there that smith plays if he is healthy, bar none. with a 16 game resume - idzik may be able to decide if smith is the chosen one or not. either way, the jets are definitely not ruling out drafting another QB next year - especially with a high draft slot.
     
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    Rarely do you see rookie QBs get benched though. Usually the coaching staff knows coming in the growing pains of a QB. Now I agree if the QB is completely useless on the field, you bench him. Benching a rookie QB could ruin their confidence going forward.

    I think in the situation we are now, Idzik's input or not we shouldn't bench Smith at all. I mean he did throw a TD in garbage time but there's always more to learn on the field. And hey maybe it helps him down the road.

    Remember Geno didn't get all of the first team reps, he rarely played in the preseason. If Geno continues to stink it up, we should be in prime position to get a QB in the first round next draft.

    Doesn't help that Holmes and Hill prob won't be out there to contribute.
     
  13. The 1985er

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    The Titans game was his first true bad game. As a rookie you had to expect him to have games like this. He's been known to bounce back so hopefully he puts up an incredible performance on Monday night. I just think in the long run he'll be fine.
     
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    They should go out and get Geno a WR, like the Jets did for Sanchez in 2009 with Braylon Edwards.
     
  15. JStokes

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    Concur 1000% but not sure who is out there that could legitimately help.

    I would think Idzik needs to look at the Jags, Raiders, TB, Minnesota and maybe Rams roster to see if there is someone there they are willing to dump--but NOT for a 1, 2 or 3.

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  16. JStokes

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    Oh, and not Kenny Britt.

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  17. NoodleArm

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    Agree with both points, but it's hard to see what assets they'd be willing to trade. Would be nice if we could steal Stedman Bailey from the Rams for a 4th, but it's unlikely that the Rams would part with one of this year's picks for less than what they paid for him.

    While the sentiment is certainly understandable, Britt wouldn't be bad if the price was right (e.g., like a 6th rounder that could be a conditional 4th). There's always a price that works :).
     
  18. LAJet

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    This is an excellent assessment of the Jets dilemma, with one caveat: The kind of offense you develop is a direct function of the caliber of players that you have, which is much more than just Geno the rookie QB.

    With Holmes out and Hill in trouble the open offensive schemes of MM will not work well. We just don't have the horses to do it. It will force Geno to spend more time in the pocket looking for marginal receivers to get open and increase his chances of getting killed or throw an interception.

    Either tailor the plays to the talent we have or get him a stud WR that can help. And no, I don't mean an injured and slow Braylon Edwards. It will entail departing with a 2nd or 3rd draft pick, which no one want to do.

    I don't think we need to put Geno in a cocoon, as you well pointed out, that will screw up his development, but I do believe we need to establish more of a running game, screens, reverses, QB sneaks, and quick slants, whatever best fits the capabilities of our players with selective long strikes when least expected, not when everyone knows is coming.

    I fully concur that the CS is between a rock and a hard spot. We need to bear down and accept the good with the bad with Geno,
     
  19. 4jetfans

    4jetfans Well-Known Member

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    If you go back and look how Brett Farve did when he was a rookie. They called him a gun slinger and was reckless. But he turned out to be a great QB. Now I am not saying he will be Brett Farve but all rookies struggle, BUT I like what I think he could be.
     
  20. RubenDias

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    hm nah let the season flow actually we are not playoff bound anyways
     

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