He will get a fine that's it. That hit no doubt rung Welker's bell. The guy dropped to the ground immediately holding his head. No doubt it was effective in limiting his usefulness during the game, although much credit should go to the Jets D for shutting his a$$ down.
I get the whole "revenge" thing, but it was a dirty hit. Smith clubbed Welker and only the thickest green colored glasses would prevent someone from seeing that. It was flat-out dirty and I didn't like it. And Welker is my least favorite Patriot not named Tommi. The Boldin hit was completely accidental. This hit was completely on purpose. I don't mind nasty hits or retaliation, but not when it involves the head on purpose.
Did we get the video yet.. I swear Smith thought he could INT the ball and Wlker was in the way - I alos thought he hit him with the inside of his arm and not the forearm at all...
From the replay during the game it was pretty clear to me that he clubbed Welker with his forearm. And he hit him after the ball was past him.
no. i think it was a stupid penalty. it's really no fun to win if it takes cheating and maiming. i love a nice hit, but it's a sport of control, in the end. discipline and smarts tends to be most effective.
Surely that depends on who you're maiming? I think beating Miami by maiming Henne would be amazing fun.
Do you have any idea who Rex Ryan's father is, Alio? That is their kind of football. And if you don't like that kind of thing, you're going to have a steady level of unhappiness in that department. Eric Smith is an enforcer, he keeps things honest across the middle. Karma and also his style of play will dictate that Smith will also get blasted and most likely injured at some point. Part of the Jets' defensive effectiveness relies on intimidation. Boy scouts don't intimidate anyone. Rex Ryan was known for placing bounties in Baltimore and you can bet he carried the tradition with him to the Jets. Eric Smith is eating steak tonight.
Cheating? Maiming? You make it sound like Eric Smith went Tonya Harding on Welker. Watch the replay. This wasn't head-hunting. It looks to me like Smith had a chance to be physical with Welker and he took it. I laughed at Phil Simms comment, personally: "You have to hit the receiver below the pad level..." or something to that effect. That would have been impossible. I don't think this was a bounty situation. I think this was a "we need to hit Wes Welker if we're going to win" situation. It wasn't a legal hit, he got flagged for it, he'll probably get a "one more and you're suspended" warning from Goodell, and that's that. Cheating? It's football, dude.
I stopped it and watched it a few times - Most of the angles were hard to tell IMO. I think there is a HUGE difference betweet Clubbing someone with a forearm "Shiver" and someone with their arms open hitting someone with the back of their forearm while going for the ball.... I'd still like a better angle on the video.... I think people are reacting to how Welker reacted to the play.
I need to see the play again has anyone found it yet?? My first reaction was laughing then i was upset we gave up the first down. I have no sympathy for the Patriots they CHEATED hits are supposed to happen in football and are often encouraged.
Yea, I was highly upset when he committed that stupid penality also. After all, we lost week 1 becuase of penalties on 3rd down. Plus, at that juncture of the game we gave them a fresh set of downs that allowed them to get a TD on us and take the lead. With the benefit of hindsight, knowing that we won by 14 (!!) I don't mind it at all. Actually, again... with the benefit of hindsight, I really like it. I want WRs & TEs to be afraid to cross the middle of the field when playing us. Smith already messed up Boldin, and now a forearm to the head of Welker... nobody's safe. There are definately some softer dudes that are not going to want to extend for a high pass when they're crossing Smith's zone/area. Be afraid...
That's the idea. If you're going to reach out for a ball across the middle against the Jets, consider that the Jets have these priorities: 1) Hit you. 2) Hit you legally. In that order.
Here's the thing, I don't mind violence, and I don't have any issues with enforcers. I believe in Rex's 2-for-1 policy. I just don't see any need or reason for it to be blatantly dirty, which that was. It was thugish, and I don't stomach that. Not when it involves a guy's brain.
Yeah, I totally agree with this, and I'm astonished that other fans don't. If a Jet WR was hit like that, everyone here would be screaming about it. The ball had passed Welker and Smith went for his head with his elbow/forearm. I watched it again, it's clear. I actually think Rex should have sat him down for a series. This sort of undisciplined play will lose a game for the Jets if it continues, mark my words. A LEGAL hit on a receiver coming across the middle makes them think twice, and I'm all for that, believe me. Guys that take cheap shots after the play do so because they have trouble intimidating within the rules. Ronnie Lott crushed receivers over the middle, but I can't recall him throwing a forearm up high on a defenseless guy who didn't have the ball.
I'd love to see the video too because this not only comports with my recollection, but I seem to recall thinking on the slowmo replay that the hit was no where near as bad as it initially looked (although as Allio said, I wear pretty thick green glasses)
I never said I condoned the dirty stuff, because I don't want to see anyone hurt badly like that, but it is part of how Rex has his guys playing. Intimidation is usually an ugly and distasteful tactic, but there is no arguing it's effectiveness. The Jets are the bad guys, Alio.
I know I risk saying something amoral, but putting aside the "it's just football" concept, there is an issue of practical significance, and that is that the CS doesn't want to leave it up to the players when to risk personal fouls. You don't want players thinking, hey in this situation it's better to to accept the penalty because..." It's easier if the players think they should avoid penalties rather than making cost benefit analyses of breaking the rules.
I always believed in coaching against stupidity that costs your team points and/or field position. Braylon Edwards should be spoken to about this concept, as well.
