We also have 2 DE's on the Roster... Vernon Gholston will play with his hand on the ground a lot this year, and we signed Marques Douglas, who will probably replace Coleman along with DeVito
OMG, don't you read any of these posts? Elam was already replaced by Leonhard. They also signed Douglas, who more than likely was starting over Coleman anyway. Leonhard is better than Elam, and Douglas is the same as Coleman (except with more knowledge of Ryan's system). As for their backups, we have 4 more picks yet in this draft.
It sounds like you are upset because you don't think Sanchez will pan out...not with the fact that we traded up. Well if you are a professional scout and can evaluate collegiate QB talent, then I agree with you. Chances are you are just another fan who has no more insight than the rest of us. Professional scouts say Sanchez has everything you need in a franchise QB and some say that he is the best QB in the draft. What is it that you don't like about him?
He wanted a receiver!!! Waaaaaaaaaaaah! (I've been one of the few Sanchez supporters on this board - and I'm damn proud that he's the QB on the New York Jets)
Then I'm giving off the wrong impression. I actually do like Sanchez. But I liked him more when they were talking about taking him at #17. I don't think he's worth the #5 pick. He can be a very good QB, I don't doubt that. But actually the poster pointing out to me that we signed Leonhard (which I completely forgot about) has sort of alleviated everything for me. However, I still would have preferred getting a RB and WR with those picks instead. Maybe that's just me, but Maclin and McCoy sounds a lot more promising to me.
Don't presume to know my expetations, as I never stated any. I didn't even want to trade up today and I didn't want Sanchez. But the trade was good value and we gave up very little, so I am not going to complain. You certainly have a high opinion of your evaluation skills and you seem to have this ability to see the future. Can I call you Miss Cleo? You have NO idea if he will pan out, he could be Leaf or Montana or anything in between. And the same can be said for every player drafted including Maclin or McCoy. As for TJ, I will agree to disagree.
Way too much??? One starter and a 2nd to get to 5th overall is a complete steal. Just take a look at years past if you don't believe me. Wasn't Ricky Williams the 5th pick? Take a look at what the Saints gave up LOL
You're not the only person here that watches college football, Mr. E. I just don't see it with him. Because he can interview well he shoots up draft boards? If he was that good he would have been a consensus top pick from the beginning. As I've said, I like him, but he's not #5. It's as simple as that in my opinion. Yeah, I would have preferred a WR. I think that was a bigger need than QB. If they didn't like Clemens or Ratliff, then I would have given Davis or Bomar a shot. Not trade up to #5 for a guy who in most other drafts wouldn't be in the top 10.
Honestly, I don't know how good Sanchez is. At the very least, I am excited that we finally have a guy who could take us to the next level (like when Pennington first started playing). I mean, unless you are good at scouting college players (and projecting how they will be in the NFL), I don't see how you can't be excited at just the thought Sanchez will be our franchise QB
I didn't like the talk I was hearing of a 1st, 2nd, and 4th, and didn't want to give up 3 picks. However, trading away two guys at positions in need of an upgrade and a guy whose role was completely killed by the taking of Sanchez sits quite well with me. I'm waiting to hear back how he feels about it, but his dad was already giving out the name of a good travel agent for games this season YESTERDAY. Apparently, he was telling people close to him that he thought we were doing whatever it took to get him.
Yeah, the Macklin McCoy thing would have been good too. The problem is then we would have had Jones, Leon, and McCoy? I mean that is a lot of overkill for RB.
Agree about the starters - Coleman trade will provide good cap relief. However I do worry about depth - not only now but for the near future. The Jets just don't seem to be building a team foundation through the draft. Compare this to the giants, NE, Pitt. What happens if the injury bug hits the Jets?
I do have a high opinion of my evaluation skills but that doesn't mean anything. Why would I give an opinion if I didn't stand behind it? All I'm saying is I don't see 5th overall value there. The price tag to move up wasn't really bad at all. But the price tag to move up specifically for Sanchez to me is. If there was someone that I thought was worth that pick, then I'm okay with it. But I really don't see him as 5th overall material. Maybe I'll be wrong, and like I said, I think he has a lot of potential, but I think the Jets are more than a QB away from doing serious damage, and I see McCoy and Maclin as players that could take this team further than just getting Sanchez.
I'm excited about it, but I'm worried about what they're leaving him with. A QB is great if he's got someone to throw to. I'm not crazy about the receiving corps we're most likely going into the season with. Someone mentioned Marcus Henry, and you can just write him off in my opinion. I can see Stuckey or Clowney making an impact (maybe even both but that's pushing it), and Keller was looking great until he tailed off at the end of the season. Cotchery is a very good #2, but that's about it.
You could very well be right. But you shouldn't state you opinion with such absolution. No one has any idea how any of these players will pan out. So since the FO didn't really give up too much to move up, I will give them the benefit of the doubt. I will trust in their evaluation of Sanchez and see what happens. Personally when I heard we moved up to 5th, I was hoping we would draft Raji, as I see a backup NT as the biggest need on the team. I'm willing to give Tanny/Ryan the benefit of the doubt.
Keller tailed off, or Farve had issues???? a matter of opinion. Marcus Henry mention was mine. I think Marcus Henry can make a diiference in the Red Zone, if he's added some wieght, and worked on his release. With that size, you don't need blazing speed.
I get what you are saying, but it is MUCH easier to find a good WR later in the draft than a good Qb. Every draft there are 1?3 Qbs who can turn a franchise around (Ryan, Manning, Palmer, Roesthlisberger, etc.)...sure some will be busts, but when you have a chance of getting a guy like that, you have to pull the trigger. The upside is too high.
The Jets are going to see alot of 8 in the box next year. A very conservative offense. What is interesting is that this offense is minus Coles, Baker, and Favre and we were expecting big things offensively last year. The bottom line is whether the Jets can replace those guys adequately. I disagree about Marcus Henry - no particular reason, just a gut feeling.
