The Dunces Have Elected A Dunce

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  1. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    Fair enough. This is all accurate, even the mean parts about me. I wasn't trying to equate military jobs with elementary school jobs (or fire and police departments) on an apples to apples basis, more so that, like with many government run enterprises, there are far too many of those jobs, which the rest of us have to pay for, than are actually necessary. I was especially not saying that servicemen in uniform are overpaid, although I won't necessarily commit to that for civilian employees and contractors.

    My original point was a tweak of JV for championing government work as a source of boundless opportunity. No doubt it is, but its not what you expect to hear from your typical conservative. Probably should've just let it go at that.
     
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    We left because the independent government we helped set up asked us to leave. That only leaves us with two options: leave or dismantle the government we spent years helping set up.

    So does that mean your choice was to dismantle the entire new Iraqi government?
     
  4. HomeoftheJets

    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately strong arming the Iraqi govt might have worked out better than the current situation.
     
  5. JetsVilma28

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    What government? Iran is running the show over there.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.bu...bout-iran-take-over-iraq-2015-3?client=safari
     
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    Trump considering new order on immigration

    President Donald Trump says that he's considering signing a new executive order on immigration as the one he signed suspending the nation's refugee program and barring citizens from seven Muslim-majority countries is held up in court.

    https://a.msn.com/r/2/AAmO8kF?m=en-us
     
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    [​IMG]

    Official: Russia Considers Returning Snowden to U.S. to ‘Curry Favor'

    U.S. intelligence has collected information that Russia is considering turning over Edward Snowden as a "gift" to President Donald Trump — who has called the NSA leaker a "spy" and a "traitor" who deserves to be executed.

    That's according to a senior U.S. official who has analyzed a series of highly sensitive intelligence reports detailing Russian deliberations and who says a Snowden handover is one of various ploys to "curry favor" with Trump. A second source in the intelligence community confirms the intelligence about the Russian conversations and notes it has been gathered since the inauguration.

    Snowden's ACLU lawyer, Ben Wizner, told NBC News they are unaware of any plans that would send him back to the United States.
    "Team Snowden has received no such signals and has no new reason for concern," Wizner said.
    Snowden responded to NBC's report on Twitter and said it shows that he did not work with the Russian government.
    "Finally: irrefutable evidence that I never cooperated with Russian intel," Snowden said. "No country trades away spies, as the rest would fear they're next."

    https://a.msn.com/r/2/AAmOTuc?m=en-us
     
  8. HomeoftheJets

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    If ignoring judicial rulings isn't grounds for booting him out of office, I don't know what is.
     
  10. Burnz

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    sad part is any sane american is kind of afraid of Pence
     
  11. joe

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    While ill-advised, it might not be without precedence.

    Worcester v. Georgia, 31 US 515 - Supreme Court 1832

    The Supreme Court ruled that since the Cherokee Nation was a "sovereign nation, authorized to govern themselves, and all persons who have settled within their territory" (1) did not give Georgia or the United States government the powers to intervene.

    Of course both the Georgia State Government, and President Andrew Jackson ignored the ruling and one of the most monstrous historical moments in the United States history would develop. (2) Historians would refer this action to the Trail of Tears.

    edit: FYI: Woman's Beach Volleyball from Ft. Lauderdale currently on NBC. Brasil vs, Brasil, a callipygian assfest in the sand.
     
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  12. The Waterboy

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    So rewriting the E.O. so that it could pass legal muster is grounds for removing a President? Should every politician that had a bill shot down on legal grounds and then rewrote it so it was legally sufficient, should they be removed from office?
     
  13. Br4d

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    So, he signs another EO, which is immediately challenged in court and then the merits will decide the case.

    If I was him this is the last thing I would do at this point because going 0-2 in Federal Court at the start of the administration would leave him an exceedingly weak figure in the public eye and his approval rating is already hovering around 40 at this point.

    He should let the original process play itself out, all the way to the Supreme Court, and then decide what's next. If he does do another EO on immigration he should have it vetted by everybody in the administration that is applicable, DOJ, State Dept, Homeland Security, etc and then only sign one that gets thumbs up all over the place.

    Losing a second time in court is an unacceptable risk for a populist President who relies on the bully pulpit to try to control events. Fighting openly with the courts doesn't damage the courts it damages the Presidency.
     
  14. Greenday4537

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    He basically said it's going to be about the same as last time.
     
  15. The Waterboy

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    Actually, the article you read led you to believe that was all there was on the subject because they knew it would get exactly this reaction. If you read some other articles on it you would find that White House lawyers were working on a rewrite of the E.O. that they feel would be legally sufficient.
     
  16. RonPi

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    Even after all that Trump has done, our worst enemy is still hobnobbing with our worst president:

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    That's a recent photo.

    Ron
     
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    Greenday "basically" sounds like he's been winging it the last couple of posts.

    Ron on the other hand sounds like he's totally got his shit together.

     
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  18. RonPi

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    You have to be shitting me:
    https://newrepublic.com/article/140577/shady-ascension-luther-strange

    "When Alabama’s sex-scandal-plagued Governor Robert Bentley stood before
    reporters Thursday to announce his appointment of state Attorney General
    Luther Strange to Jeff Sessions’s Senate seat, the most obvious question
    was: Is this a corrupt bargain to end the state’s criminal investigation of Bentley


    “I want to make this clear because I think there’s been some misconception here,”
    Strange replied. “We have never said in our office that we are investigating the governor.”

    Yet an Alabama attorney, speaking on the condition of anonymity, tells The New
    Republic that he represents several witnesses in just such an investigation. He
    says that he and his clients met outside the grand jury room in Montgomery with
    Strange and the top lawyers in the state’s anti-corruption unit, and that they
    made it clear to him that Bentley was the target. Throughout the summer and early
    fall there was a flurry of activity around the case, the attorney says, but that
    it ground to a halt right after November 8, when Donald Trump’s surprise win cleared
    a path for Sessions’s ascent to the president’s cabinet and for Strange to claim his
    seat in the Senate.

    The Bentley investigation is the worst-kept secret in Alabama. Days before the election,
    Strange wrote members of Alabama’s House Judiciary Committee asking them to suspend
    their impeachment investigation of Bentley until his office had completed “related work.”
    And in July, the Alabama Political Reporter staked out the grand jury room and snapped
    pictures of Bentley walking in along with Strange, his assistant state attorneys, and
    all the leading characters in Bentley’s scandalous soap opera, which revolves around
    an extramarital affair Bentley had with a top aide decades his junior."

    Ron
     
  19. BrowningNagle

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    Could you give us an example of any president who had an executive order shot down only to rewrite it?
     
  20. Greenday4537

    Greenday4537 Well-Known Member

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    Keep smoking.
     
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