That isn't going to happen. The Texans need the draft capital NOW, not next year. The #2 pick swings things in our favor as well.
No they don’t. There’s no significant difference in the big picture whether they get the draft capital for this year or next year. It just means their rebuild starts a year later.
Why would they want to wait a year to start their rebuild? Makes no sense at all. They aren't trading him after the 2021 and before the 2021 season.
It actually makes sense that someone against trading for Watson would say that Dak, Jackson, and Allen are arguably better than him. It also makes sense that people arguing against trading for Watson worry that we would have no draft picks or cap room after trading for him. In reality, it is easier to argue that Watson is the best QB in the league considering the dumpster fire he has performed on compared to the talent and coaching Mahomes benefits from. And, of course, everyone knows the Jets would still have more cap space than most teams after trading for Watson and would likely have at least one pick in every round of the next 2 drafts.
I respect and understand where you're coming from, but I disagree. I'd rather have the picks now to build around Watson day one, not only for his sake, but for the team's sake, because it can take a year or two before draft picks really hit their stride. In addition, we know this is a strong draft. The 2023 draft could be a down year for the draft. Even if not, if we have the pick this year, then we would have the player's services for two years already by 2023.
I disagree. Anyone who says that Dak or Jackson are better than Watson is flat out nuts. IMO it makes zero sense to worry that we would have no draft picks or cap room to build around him if we trade for Watson. That worry is baseless for anyone aware of the facts. Everyone obviously does NOT know that the Jets would still have more cap space than most teams and that we would likely have at least one pick in every round, as we have had countless posters in this thread say that we wouldn't be able to build around him and that it would be the same as Sam, expecting him to do it all on his own with no talent around him.
Maybe they want to try and resolve it with Watson rather than trade him. If that’s the case, potentially resolving the conflict with him is worth the risk of deferring the draft benefit a year. Does that really not make sense to you?
Like I said, they aren't trading him after the 2021 draft and before the 2021 season. That would be an absolute moronic move. If you're saying they try throughout the entire year to get him to buy in again, that makes perfect sense. But it sounds like you're saying they should just wait it out for a while and then if June rolls around and he still wants out, trade him... and that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Yes, it would be stupid for them to wait to trade him after the draft if they plan on trading him. but that wasn’t the crux of the discussion my comment was in regards to. The discussion was the claim that they had to trade him immediately because they need the draft capital now, not next year. They don’t need it more now than next year, it simply makes more sense to get it now rather than wait if they are going to trade him. But those are two different things entirely.
This is very true and the heart of our mistaken assumptions. Someone on twitter posts a trade scenario and people are acting like that will be the deal. Rebuilding means getting a lot of picks now - not in 2 years. I guarantee if the Texans want to trade with us both our #1s this year are gone. Probably our #2 as well. That is three top 40 picks this year, which is our real value to them. Next year they will also want a #1, unless they are really in love with Fields in which case they might roll with our #2. SO that is only two #1s and two #2s, but do you want to do it that way? People acting like the Texans would work out a deal so our rebuild goes well are lying to themselves. If we traded down to 10 this year, would you do it for a 2nd next year and a 1st in 2023? Rebuilding teams value picks right away.
I didn't pick anything arbitrary. did you not know dak got injured? We can go every year to every year dak wins statistically over watson by a lot. dak only played 4 full games this season why is why i only counted those 4. hell you can arbitrarily take watsons best 4 game span to daks only 4 games he played and dak still wins. he won in 2019 and he won in 2018 as well. your overrating watson because he may be a jet with a .0001% chance. nobody on this board considered watson great until now, now you want to compare a guy who's been in the league 3 years had 1 great year and 2 solid years to people who were great for a decade? that's a joke. watson is a great player. i'd be happy to see him as a jet. I wouldn't sell the future for him though.
So now you want Fields? Lol. If the Jets pick Fields and he doesn't pan out you will be the first one screaming. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
Exactly, with this hypothetical situation, we can be assured the Texans are not going to care about the Jets rebuild, they are only worried about the Texans. Likewise the Jets should only worry about the Jets, screw the Texans.
a good solid team gives you a chance as well. a team with nothing but a QB fails if the QB gets hurt. look at the colts. they were a perinial division winner. peyton got hurt and they were the worst team in the NFL that year. then they got to draft luck. luck came in and balled and they were good again. he retired and they didn't make the playoffs that year. tom brady got hurt in NE and yes to be fair they won 11 games that season still. but missed the playoffs and wouldn't have won a SB. brady left the pats they sucked this year. If your team is based solely around a QB and he gets hurt you suck. a well rounded team still wins. the steelers did ok with ben when he got hurt. the chiefs kept winning even in games mahomes missed. the eagles won a SB with a backup QB. the rams were fine with walford and even won a playoff game with goff having a broken thumb and being medicore. A well rounded team is the best chance for success over an elite QB with not much else.
