yes they did which is why wilson went in the 3rd round. they passed on him twice. and lucky he turned out as he did. prior to the wilson draft in 2010 and 2011 they had 5 picks in the top 3 rounds. they took 2 OT, 1 OG, 1 WR, and 1 SS. they build an o-line and got weapons. their QB was a mediocre jag too. their 2010 and 2011 drafts were amazing and really built up that team. then in 2012 they took 2 defensive players before selecting wilson. they built the legion of boom in those 2 drafts had a top D a great o-line good WRs then the QB who only needed to be a game manager. wislon was in a position where de didn't need to win games. he just needed to not make mistakes and he did that well. they set him up to succeed so yes that is exactly what seattle did
Stafford also had his career detailed when they took the Patricia plunge and they decided to overpay a bunch of aging defensive players. They were on the upswing before they fired Caldwell and trusted Patricia.
You’re speculating on what you think they would think and feel, and thus what they would do. I’m talking about the facts of the matter. My counter speculation is that the fan base will kill them more for trading him; no fan base wants to see a franchise QB if his age and ability traded, so I don’t find your speculation that the fan base would kill them for not trading him and being bad based in reality. The fact is they don’t have to trade him, and there’s no chance in hell he walks away from $130 million and his career for five years, so even if he sits for one year he will be back . All they have to do is wait. Add to that the likelihood that they are going to be bad next year regardless of whether they trade him or not, thus being bad is something the fans will endure anyways, the more rational speculation about how the organization and fans will think and feel is that they will be better and happier with him over the subsequent four years; so there is no pressure to worry about getting killed for being bad for one year while they wait him out.
And they kept building after they had him but the base of the team was built off hitting on draft picks. They didn't have excess capital like everyone's insinuating we needed. If we trade three ones and a second we have essentially the same capital Seattle had.
It's easy to say that, but the reality is often different. Teams eventually decide the headache isn't worth it and trade the player for the most that they can get.
you could argue luck but really what did he accomplish? not much again because the team around him sucked and it led to an early retirement. newton was a 1 year wonder not even close to stafford. palmer was average his whole career nothing close to stafford or luck. ryan was good but not as good as stafford and again hasn't won shit true they did start to come up for a bit and patricia killed them but that's the main point. having a top QB doens't mean you are a good team right away. it's ironic people think that when watsons teams was ass this year with him.
Yeah I don't think Houston is in any dire situation to move him. I think a lot of fans underestimate the fact that Houston could just as well play hard ball back and tell him to sit out and incur a bevy of fines starting at $50,000 a day in training camp. I'm not sure what the in-season fines are, but after a month of holding out in training camp he'll be $1.5 million in the hole and will be docked game checks on top of any other fines.
The Seahawks had 2 1st round picks 1 2nd round pick and 1 3rd round pick in 2010 and 2011 drafts combined. Why can't the Jets build a team by trading for Watson and having more draft capital than the Seahawks in this example?
He also has an MVP award and is a fringe Hall of Famer. @GasedAndConfused - you're drastically overrating Stafford. He's fifteenth in the league in active quarterback rating at the moment. Watson is second..
those 3 drafts they had were ridiculous but have failed since and right now aren't a great team but a good one. even with wilson being a top QB. the defense fell apart because of the cap and they haven't drafted well to replace them while haing to spend their money keeping wilson and a few others they hit on in the draft. in a 3 year spans they drafted okung, thomas, tate, chancellor, carpenter, moffit, wright, sherman, maxwell, irvin, wagner, wilson, that;s their entire secondary with pro bowlers, a top 2 MLB to run the D, a great o-line, good WR, a pass rusher, and a top QB. that's like half a team of above average to pro bowl level starts in 3 drafts we have the chance to do that now having 4 1sts, a 2nd, and 3 3rds in the next 2 drafts we just need to hit.
he was banged up all year and shouldn't have been playing. that's 1 year full of injuries at 33 years old. in his 3rd year (which this was watsons 3rd year) he threw for over 5k yards and over 40 TDs his 3rd year was better then watsons 3rd year.
Moffitt started 15 games in two years and then was shipped out. So I wouldn't pump him as a success. We have the same capital to do the same thing.
ryan had a better team around him. staford has a better personal career. ryan has more playoff success then marino is he better?
they got lucky in the late rounds with wilson, sherman, maxwell, chancellor etc. but their high picks were wagner, thomas, okung etc. they also had 3 1sts in those drafts not 2.
Apart from the possibility that both those QB's would now be Sam Darnoldesque. Out of the two probably Watson would be in the better shape, hell, the OL he had was at least reminiscent to the Jets revolving door, Mahomes had the luxury of sitting and learning bar 1 game until season 2 and not thrown in at the deep end. I think both should count their lucky stars that Mac was a moron.
