Do "smart GMs" begin building by trading away draft capital? I agree with smart approaches to rebuilding. I'm not trying to make it into a specific approach. In my opinion, we don't spend any top draft picks on a QB this year. This is a rebuild year so we fill out the roster in hopes of getting a solid core team. Rebuilding is so much simpler when your not pin balling from Lawrence, to Fields, to Wilson, to Lance, to Watson. QB is next years task. Solid core is this years task. Its not sexy at first but it pays off in the long run.
QB is every years task. Did the Seahawks think they should wait a year before they take a quarterback because they need to bolster the offensive line? Same question applies for most teams that select a quarterback. Again - you're trying to apply a cookie cutter mold to a rebuild. Do this at this time and think about other positions at this time. The goal is to acquire good football players. Quarterback is the most difficult position to fill in the league. There's a reason that Super Bowl winning quarterbacks are generally Hall of Famers amid some anomaly's out there. It's the greatest way to sustain long term success. Good defenses don't stay together for very long or dominate for elongated periods of time like a quarterback does.
Its not a cookie cutter mold. Its a proven formula for building a winning team out of a losing team. If we want to stray from the formula and still call it a good plan, then good luck. Cause we'll need more luck on that path.
This false argument that the Jets need 4 1st round picks in the next 2 years to build a contender is ridiculous. Comparing the Jets getting Watson to the Lions never building a team around Stafford is just as flawed. If the Jets make the same mistakes the Lions did in drafting, free agency, and coaching, there's no chance of building a contender with or without Watson. Trading for Watson while keeping at least 1 draft pick in each round for the next 2 years is not abandoning the rebuild.
There are multiple plans that are good. Getting Watson is one of them. Of course, it's assuming on cost. I wouldn't want to give up the farm or treasure chest, necessarily.
The Bills traded draft capital for Josh Allen when they had no core whatsoever, then once they had who they thought their QB was and a solid foundation (by making the same amount of picks we would have post-trade), they traded a ton of draft capital for Diggs. So...
It really doesn't matter how many times and how many different ways you say it... some people will just not understand this.
That is incorrect. You need to check what the Bills did the year before they drafted Allen. You might learn some things.
The idea of getting a franchise quarterback and letting the rest of the pieces fall into place has worked for the Packers, Saints, Patriots, Steelers, and Colts. It will now work for the Chiefs in terms of longevity. It didn't end in the ultimate goal but it worked for the most part in maintaining competitive for the Chargers with Rivers. Imagine Andy Reid didn't trade all those picks up to get Mahomes and was left meddling with Alex Smith?
Look at the teams that are consistent title contenders. Patriots, Steelers, Saints, Packers, Chiefs. It starts with elite play at the QB position and it's the hardest thing to find. Jets fans should all know this.
Elite QBs don't grow on trees. You can build the core all you want, but whiff on every QB pick for the next 10 years or draft one high and end up with Alex Smith for 5 years while the "solid core" you built becomes old and overpaid. It blows my mind that people are saying the #2 pick plus the Jamal Adams picks are too much for a 25yo elite QB. 25 years old! Crazy.
You're right I did learn some things. There are zero (0) players from the Bills 2017 offense that are currently on the Bills and two players drafted in 2017 still on the Bills. Why would you tell me to check what the Bills did the year before they drafted Allen when all that did was make your point even worse?
What was our record last year? What was the Texans record last year? What was Tua's record last year? Football goes way beyond a QB. When you obsess on one during a rebuild you are gambling with the rent money. I think I've made my position clear for now. Sorry I just dont understand.
you really think 10 QBs have been better then him for a decade consistently? brady, peyton, brees, rodgers, ben. I can't think of anyone else I would have taken from 2010 to 2020
That's because they cleared out their roster prepping their rebuild. Now check what trades they made in 2017 before they traded the Mahomes pick. Your not following the rebuild logic at all. They put themselves in a position to have a solid core team before going for a QB. They rode with Tylor and stocked up on assets before they took Allen.
Russell Wilson, Andrew Luck, Phillip Rivers. Just off the top of my head. I know Luck & Wilson were rookies in 2012 and Luck retired a year ago.
Sure, but you ultimately need that "QB" to win a Superbowl. The rest is still just smoke and mirrors at the end of the day. That's been proven almost literally every year.
And do you think they'll have sustained success as players start to leave and retire and Mahomes contract hits the cap or no? How would they combat that? The Chiefs are a bit of an outlier because they have one of the best coaches of all time. Before they arrived they were a relative mess.
