The Deshaun Watson Situation (POLL added for the potential price)

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by Rockinz, Jan 16, 2021.

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What is the MOST you would give up to get Watson?

  1. Just the #2 pick

    24 vote(s)
    17.6%
  2. The two 1's and 3 we got from Seattle

    37 vote(s)
    27.2%
  3. The #2, Seattles first in 2022, our 1st in 2023

    55 vote(s)
    40.4%
  4. More - just get it done.

    20 vote(s)
    14.7%
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  1. JetsKickAss

    JetsKickAss Well-Known Member

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    You mean ordered by Joe Tsai. :D
     
  2. Terminated117

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    Man, the shit must’ve really hit the fan if the Texans are here with this dude. How the Hell you’re on the verge of losing this level talent is beyond me, but shit I’ll take him if he’s down for coming up to NY. Don’t know if reports of him wanting Miami are true, but we can put together a better package for the Texans for him and hopefully Saleh can allure him....tbh I’m just glad to be out of the Goddamn Gase era that shit like this is even remotely possible
     
  3. JetsKickAss

    JetsKickAss Well-Known Member

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    The religious and racial stuff is bogus. I've followed the Texans closely the last year or so.

    It ALL boils down to Hopkins and Easterly. And Watson also liked O'Brien (as HC)....he really wanted him fired as GM and kept as HC.
     
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  4. JetsKickAss

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    Quietest 400 yards I ever saw or heard.

    Before the stats went up I thought he threw for about 250.
     
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  5. ConcordeChops

    ConcordeChops 2018 International Poster Award Winner

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    HAVE WE SIGNED HIM YET???!!!
     
  6. NYGANGGREEN

    NYGANGGREEN Well-Known Member

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    We cant sign this beast we have to sway him and then give his current team some compensation
     
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    Was he involved in an accident that wasn't his fault?

    Sent from my M2007J20CG using Tapatalk
     
  8. MoWilkBeast

    MoWilkBeast Well-Known Member

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    Isn't everyone?
     
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  9. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

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    How so?

    It leaves them with #23 and two thirds this draft (plus the rest of the picks and maybe a third or fourth for Sam).

    It leaves them with a normal draft in 2022.

    Just missing a first in 2023.
     
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  10. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    It's really a messed up situation.

    If Watson is traded the Texans have $52M in dead money hits over the next 4 seasons. The acquiring team is going to get a cap bargain next season at $10.5M salary and cap but then they have to pay $35M salary and cap in 2022, $20M salary and a $17M roster bonus, so $37M cap in 2023, $32M salary and cap in 2024 and $32M in salary and cap in 2025.

    All of this with signs that the cap will be stagnant over the next several years due to Covid-19 related revenue declines.

    Basically the Texans are screwed no matter what and their trading partner is likely to join them in that status.
     
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  11. MaximusD163

    MaximusD163 Well-Known Member

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    There is no sign that the cap will be stagnant beyond this year.
     
  12. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    Literally, this is the first time anyone talking sports has brought up the idea that the cap will stay stagnant for any length of time .
     
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    "I don't know if this was today or years ago..."

    They are all wearing masks.....Obviously it has to be from within the last 10 months.
     
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  14. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    What would you pay our newly drafted QB in 3 years time?

    Take it as given for this purpose he is at least Watson's level and is looking to upgrade his rookie deal early, even if you offer me a Mahomes style extension so the pay will not become active until year 6.

    For me Watson's contract is cheap as chips for a guaranteed FQB, it was my one reservation about him until somebody explained how much of his wage will be taken up by the Texan's
     
  15. BroadwayAaron

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    I can’t do months of this shit. Not now.
     
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  16. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Well, the overall revenue figures fell by something like $4B last year, pushing a projected $16B downwards towards $12B. That means the cap, which is based on a significant percentage of that overall revenue should decline also by something like 30%. However the leaks that are coming out right now about the negotiations between owners and players is that it will be pegged at $175M for 2021, down just 11.6% from last years $198M.

    The problem is that it is unlikely that the NFL will be able to open up attendance again in 2021. The new variants of Covid-19 are very likely to keep this thing around through the next flu season and fairly likely to continue beyond that. It is hard to see where the owners are going to again subsidize the decline in revenues w/o asking the players to do more. The owners lost significant projected revenue in 2020 and are likely to gain a bit on that in 2021 but nowhere near reaching the revenue plateau they expected to be on in 2022 when they made the projections in 2019.

    Ballpark figure on 2022 salary cap is probably a similar low double digits percentage loss over 2021, which will bring the overall percentage of the revenue actually earned back closer to the original 48/52 split between players and owners.

    This is just math guys. When you drop from $15.26B in 2019 to $12B in 2020 and then go back up to maybe $13.5B in 2021, well that just doesn't support anything other than a stagnant salary cap moving forward.

    You can project we'll go back to hunky dory normal in 2021 but I would suggest that projection is not just optimistic at this point but probably ridiculous.
     
  17. Snatch Catch

    Snatch Catch Well-Known Member

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    I think his agent is simply a Jets fan bantering with his boss that are Philly fans like any of us would do in the same situation.

    Hopefully it's more than that, though, haha.

     
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  18. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Very little of his contract is going to stay with the Texans. They will have a dead money hit of $52M over the next 4 years but that is money already paid to him. His costs to the next team moving forward will be $10.5M, $35M, $37M, $32M and $32M.
     
  19. K'OB

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    Oh my, he is teasing us.
     
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  20. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    It’s pretty obvious that Watson to the Jets is a done deal.
     
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