The defense HAS to be better

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  1. Will-I-Am-Not

    Will-I-Am-Not Well-Known Member

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    Roethlisberger is just an animal in the pocket, almost impossible to bring down. Whenever I see defenders bouncing off of him, it reminds me of King Kong swatting at tiny planes on the Empire State Building.

     
  2. jco2007

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    You can't expect to win games by scoring 10 points. End of story.
     
  3. Jake

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    I thought the D kept us in the game like always. We went like 2 hours without a completion that game and were down only 10 in the 4th.
     
  4. The 1985er

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    Not to mention we did a decent job of getting pressure on big Ben, do you know how many sacks we could have had on big Ben, if the Jets defense could have brought him down? Only McIntyre was able to get him on the ground, and one of those sacks were coverage sacks.
     
  5. TNJet

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    Our Run defense better show up to stop Reggie Bush.
     
  6. Jeti

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    Too slow on the edges, any team that runs to the outside is gonna beat us up
     
  7. JetBlue

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    The defense couldn't stop Pittsburgh from scoring. The offense kept us close in the first half and scored on 2 of 4 possessions. The defense was why we were losing. How did they keep it close by giving up 20 points on the Steelers first five possessions? You aren't keeping it close if you are giving up points.
     
  8. laxin

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    Hopefully Demario Davis gets some playing time... He's the only LB with above average athleticism/speed.
     
  9. IWillPeeGreen

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    Wilson and Cromartie gotta step up, Jets have spent 1st and 2nd picks on these guys, and are paying Cromartie like a #1 corner. Cromartie usually plays well yes, but theres just no excuse for the wallace play, it just shows horrid technique
     
  10. The 1985er

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    Cromartie wasn't THAT bad, if you wanna see bad corner play look at who the Giants have out there right now.

    Jets fans are spoiled by Revis, not everybody is a shutdown corner. Most corners in the league at certain points in a game will give up a big play or two.
     
  11. Barcs

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    I agree cromartie was decent, but that TD play was pretty bad. As soon as bberg tossed that, I yelled out, "Interception!" In any normal scenerio that would have happened. Cro just misjudged it. It happens. It's true we are spoiled by Revis.
     
  12. displacedfan

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    Wilson played okay. They moved him inside and outside a lot this game. Cro had the big mistake and plays way too off receivers. I guess no matter how hard the coaching staff tries to get him to jam receivers, he won't.
     
  13. MurrellMartin

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    But it won't.

    We upgraded our run defense in Landry and Bell, but not our pass defense. The middle of the field, due to the safeties and slow LB's, is still extremely vulnerable and slot receivers/TE's will continue to exploit the team, as well fast, shifty RB's.

    The DL is full of run stoppers, not pass rushers, minus Aaron Maybin who's a one trick pony playing OLB and DE for 20 snaps a game and Quention Coples who will show up one week and the next week you'd think Gholston had returned.

    Unless Rex starts drawing up exotic blitzes again, like he did in 2009, this defense will not be elite. It won't. It needs to be in order to compete for a championship with the QB we have (Manager, nothing more), but it isn't looking good. In the meantime we'll continue to beat up most of the average and below average teams and continue to fall short against the elite.
     
  14. Jake

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    Is a 10 point game a close game or not? Rhetorical question. Some fuckin how, we were in that game despite the offense not completing a pass in TWO REAL TIME HOURS. The D kept us in it imo, not a good game by them by any means but sufficient offensive support could have resulted in a W.
     
  15. jerseyjay14

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    how did they keep us in it when they:

    a) blew a lead before the half

    b) allowed pit to grow that lead first possesion after the half

    c) aloowed the steelers to go on a backbreaking 13 play 10 minute drive to score a TD to start the 4th

    d) allow 27 points

    defense was terrible and at no point kept us in this game
     
  16. Big Blocker

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    Talk about darksiders, those fans here who think the Jets suffer by having Cro as the number 2 cb are just not understanding reality.
     
  17. Jake

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    If you're down 10 pts, you're in the game. We had nothing offensively, it takes contributions from all sides to beat good teams. Kerleys fumble didn't help.
     
  18. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    I wasn't placing blame on why we won or lost. The defense needs to be better though. Allowing a 10+ minute drive to end the game is unacceptable.
     
  19. CurbYourEnthusiasm

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    The score was 13-10 at half. Allowing 13 pts at the half isn't a terrible thing. Obviously there are better outcomes, but to say 'at no point did they keep us in the game' is a ridiculous stretch.

    I thought Sunday's loss was a total team effort. The defense was subpar, we had a TO on special teams, and the offense didn't show up in the second half (really the entire game save the first drive).
     
  20. Br4d

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    The Jets have done this a couple of times each year that Rex has been here. It was worse in 2011 than in 2010 and 2009 and that directly affected the Jets chances to make the playoffs.

    My theory is that it's about personnel more than anything else. When the Jets get caught on the field with the wrong personnel by a no-huddle they get conservative and have issues. When the Jets decide to play a series straight up their average personnel gets exploited. When the other team decides to force the issue by just going back to what's working over and over the Jets average personnel gets exploited.

    The only times that the Jets personnel are a strength is when Rex is attacking the other team's offense with them and getting lucky on the breaks or when the other team's offensive personnel is worse than the Jets defenders.

    Rex is a great coach but he doesn't have the Ravens defenders to coach any more and the difference shows. I think this is why the Jets are leaningso heavily towards defense in the early parts of the draft. Rex knows he's got average players on that side of the ball ad that if the defense is actually going to dominate he needs much better players.
     

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