The defense HAS to be better

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  1. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

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    i refuse to blame the offense for us not being able to prevent the steelers from converting 3rd downs at an astronomical rate.

    you want a rest on defense? stop the opponent on third down!

    dont give me this "gassed" crap.

    in the first quarter pittsburg had two drives. an 11 play drive and a 9 play drive. both resulted in points. and pitt converted 3 of 5 3rd downs, all 3 conversions were on 3rd and long.

    am i supposed to believe the jets defense was gassed in the first flipping quarter?
     
  2. JetBlue

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    yes you are.
     
  3. Big Blocker

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    It should be obvious that the Jet O going three and out too often was hurting the Jet D.

    And I will say that anyone who doesn't acknowledge that does not know football.
     
  4. Big Blocker

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    I agree. Good post.

    The loss was a team effort. But the O did not hold the ball long enough to help the D.
     
  5. JetBlue

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    I didn't even see this gem. how disappointing.

    first of all, it would be "you're a fucking moron." if you don't know something so basic you probably should avoid that particular insult.

    beyond that, the rest of your asinine post has already been addressed.

    but to this particular dumb fucking point:
    other than the 1 (that's right, ONE, as in single) 10 minute drive in the fourth quarter, the Steelers other 2 longest drives occurred in the 1st half: their 10 play, 5:53 minute opening drive which led to a FG, and the 11 play, 5:40 minute drive that led to the TD at the end of the half, at which point the Jets had actually run more plays than the Steelers and only had one minute less of Time of Possession, so clearly it wasn't fatigue due to the offense's inability that led to them.

    that is just reality. screaming insults doesn't change that, but considering you have just shown you didn't even comprehend the game you were watching I can see how you would hope to distract others from seeing that.
     
  6. JetBlue

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    the Jets only had 1 three and out on the Steelers first 20 points. how was it the single three and out that contributed to 4 scores on their first five possessions?
     
  7. Big Blocker

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    Not to digress here, but this is worth a mention - the Steelers seem a lot deeper as a squad than the Jets. They dont seem to have too many Lanksters on their squad.
     
  8. ajetsfan4ever

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    and Big Ben, who thankfully we don't have to face again.
     
  9. BrowningNagle

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    I don't really know what the hell you are trying to say because you are all over the place man, but your numbers make absolutely no sense. the offense was only good for barely 10 minutes of actual football time.

    The defense was called upon time and time again to stop a good football team, only for the offense to go out there, shit the bed and punt it back to them. If you cannot grasp how this hurts a defense then you need to think about watching something else.

    The defense was put into tough situation after tough situation. Sometimes they answered but sometimes they didn't. They didn't play good, or up to their potential anyway, but they kept their team in it against a good football team. The Offense played an absolutely shitty football game, hurt their defense because they couldn't move the football or sustain anything outside of the first quarter of the game... They are lucky they had the Jets D and not someone elses or else the game might've been 45-10.
     
  10. JetBlue

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    they aren't my numbers, they are facts of the game. if they don't make sense, you don't need to watch a new game because clearly you are watching something imaginary to begin with.
     
  11. jerseyjay14

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    In the first three quarters of yestardays game, the jets went 3 and out ONE time. ONCE. during that span, the steelers scored 20 points.

    Once in 45 minutes of football is "way too often"? the jets D was worn date late, sure, but pittsburg did its damage vs a rested jets defense and did so throughout the entire game. the 3 and outs occured AFTER pitt dropped 20 on us.

    you can be a football genius, but if you arent watching the game it is really irrelevant. anyone who watched the game could see that the defense couldnt get off the field. not in the first quarter, not in first half, not in the second half. not after a long jet drive, not after halftime, not at all.

    the jets D got outplayed. and they have only themselves to blame.
     
  12. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

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    Time of possession was almost dead even going into the 4th quarter(23:12 to 21:48 ). to that point the steelers had scored 20 points.

    the jets were AHEAD in time of possession in the 4th quarter before allowing the steelers to go on a 14 play 10:13 second drive.

    to say that the jets O wasnt on the field enough to help the defense is just crazy. they were ahead in TOP until the jets defense gave up that enormous drive and coudlnt stop anything on third down.
     
  13. BakerMaker

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    The sacks we nearly got on Big Ben would happen to at least 90% of the QBs in the league. I guarantee if we get guys out next to Tannehill that we did on Big Ben this Sunday, that we'd have a sackfest of a day.

    Big Ben makes opposing D's look bad in that aspect. He is such a difficult QB to gameplan against because he improvises on the run a lot of the time and buys enough time because of his big body strength and maneuverability to find a target in the open field, if not run for the 1st down.

    Outside of maybe Vick, Romo and Brady....not many Qbs can do what Big Ben does as far as dodging sacks go.
     
  14. Win4ever

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    This was a team loss. The defense was no great shakes. Our 3rd CBs got abused on underneath slant routes all day, thanks to our LBs not being any good at all. Our front couldn't tackle Ben even when they had a shot.

    Our QB sucked after the first quarter, our O-line regressed somewhat during the game, RB sucked, and WRs were basically Holmes dropping passes and a bunch of other people running around on a jog in the park.

    Even our ST sucked with Kerley, which shook his confidence, because the next time they punted, he didn't even bother to try and catch it, and just ran upfield.

    I honestly don't even know one aspect of the game that we were actually good at. This was the definition of a team loss.
     
  15. ajax

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    The Defense needed the offense to bail them out because they couldn't tackle even when they got right in Big Ben's face. The Offense needed the D to bail them out because they accomplished nothing after the opening two drives. The Special Teams put the offense & defense in the hole by turnover on punt & losing one opportunity to down Pitt deep when Jet jumped on TD Line prior to knocking ball backwards.

    Team failed in too many places to just blame one unit.
     
  16. Br4d

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    The reasons the Jets lost yesterday were many. They were on the road in a tough stadium. The opponent was both desperate and talented. The QB took a shot to the head early on. The Steelers DB's were more talented than the Jets WR's. The defensive gameplan for the Steelers was shifted after the Jets first drive and the Jets never compensated. Ben Roethlisberger is a really hard QB to sack. The Jets muffed a punt at a crucial time. The Jets best CB got beat badly ONCE, which will happen to anybody, and at a bad time.

    It was just an ugly game.

    To suggest that any individual was responsible for most of this loss is silly. It takes a team effort to get beat like the Jets got beat.
     
  17. slimjasi

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    If we could of only tackled Big Ben on half of the times we got into the backfield, we probably would have given up two fewer touchdowns. I understand that Big Ben's strength is extending plays, but the tackling in the first two games has been absurdly poor, especially by Jet standards. We have easily been one of the best tackling teams in the NFL in the Ryan era, and we have been overwhelmingly disappointing in this department over the first two games.
     
  18. TurkJetFan

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    now we aren't even talking about the same thing...you make absolutely zero sense
     
  19. JetBlue

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    if it doesn't make any sense you have only yourself to blame, because that is what you have been saying.
     
  20. TurkJetFan

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    pardon my lack of using an apostrophe....you r super internetz smarts.


    I wasn't aware the Jets were moving the ball with ease in the 1st half outside of the opening drive...must have missed that one.

    and dont be a shitty asshole hypocrite...im simply stooping to your inferior, mentally challenged level.

    dont be mad bc ppl (not just me) think you make absolutely zero sense.

    in fact my original response to you wasn't exonerating the D at all, but you feel the need to say im mentally challenged and have some sort of handler.

    fuckbag, you arent worth another reponse so quote away.

    I have yet to use the ignore feature on this board, but i just found a reason to. hopefully it works.
     

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