yeah, that's a concern with every player and every contract. nothing unique about it with Revis, there is never any guarantee. is that really a concern of yours? if so, what's the solution? not ever sign anyone?
I just find it hard to believe he's really going to be willing to sit out an entire season with the 2011 hold out looming. And for those guys talking about how much leverage he loses if we start out 2-0 with a strong defensive performance - damn right. He knows how good Rex is, he has to know how risky a move that would be.
I find it hard to believe either side would be willing to have him sit out the year. Both Revis and the Jets have plenty to lose if they don't get a deal done. Hopefully as the season gets closer both sides will get a little antsy and start making some compromises.
He can fuck himself. When was the last time Rex Ryan ended up with a team that was below top 5 in defense? That's right. We'll adapt. We should be focusing on developing Sanchez anyway. He's the most important player on this team.
Well the Jets cannot agree to a contract that will kill their cap. If that is what is being demanded then they simply will not budge. Revis on the other hand CAN agree to a deal worth less than that, in fact if he doesn't he will go with no paycheck and a bunch of fines for this year, and then what is looking like probably no pay check next year. Can Revis do that?
I'm not sure how you could say that both the Jets and Revis have an equal amount to lose if he holds out. The Jets will continue to sell tickets, get endorsement deals, etc. Revis will be paid zero dollars, lose any endorsement deals, and could potentially be out of football for two seasons if there's a holdout. Not looking good for Darrelle.
I have no sympathy for Revis. Yes he has played above his current contract, but he's the one that signed it. He can sit out for all I care and when we win without him, he'll regret it. His uncle can go fuck himself too...Yes he sat out from the Redskins, Yes, he got a 7 year $49m deal from the Panthers, but he only had one good year out of the 7...so who got fucked in that deal. REVIS...you signed a contract, stop being a pussy and get to camp. You greedy motherfucker!
Of course the Jets need to concerned about the big picture above all else. They can probably make some compromise on a signing bonus if Revis lowers his overall salary demands or something like that. I still don't see this going into the season because it really isn't in anyone's best interest for that to happen.
Greene will be 25 this season. The typical 2nd-year RB is 23 or 24. Because Greene already has some age to him (relative to most other 2nd-yr vets) and because he's not a threat as a receiver, they should not bother with Greene on a second contract. Let him go elsewhere when his rookie deal expires. The Jets should draft a running back in round 3 or 4 in 2011 to be Greene's understudy next season. Hopefully, that player would be the top back once Greene departs.
I am not going to succumb to the hysteria. If Revis sits for the year he sits for the year. There is just no way that the Jets should pay him Aso money. There is no CB on earth that deserves more money than Manning or Brady. That contract is a statistical outlier. Sorry I wouldn't expect the Jets to go there. Hopefully something can be worked out in between. If Revis wants Aso money, well then he is going to have a fun time watching the 2010 NFL.
The Jets have less to lose but they still do stand to lose out in this, especially if Woody is really as serious about getting that championship as he says he is. if we are looking at this purely from the money perspective then the Jets have nothing to lose while Revis is screwed.
Exactly! At this point I am so fed up with the stubborn attitude from Revis' camp on total compensation, that I very much hope this happens. The Jets show they can win without Revis, and he quickly starts singing a different tune. Let's just hope the opposite doesn't happen. Not to mention that it would be great to start out 2-0 anyway.
The Kyle Wilson pick never looked better than it does today, right? Hope he can cover like we expect him too. This sucks though. I guess things were just looking too rosy in Jet-land.
From a purely money standpoint... you're right. However, your team has set itself up for a big run for THIS year. Holmes, Edwards, Mangold, Cromartie, etc are all going to need deals next year... and you certainly arent going to be able to sign them all. This is the year for the run. This is what you're set up for. Losing Revis blows that. You can not win the Super Bowl w/o Revis... its going to be hard enough for you to win it with him.
and if Revis was willing to sign a one year deal, you may have a point. but Revis doesn't want a one year deal to just make a run this year, he wants a long term deal that can cripple the Jets long term if not structured correctly, thus the Jets primary concern has to be long term. and if the deal is structured as essentially just a one year deal so they could jettison him after this season and their run, the only way to make that happen would be with a reasonable guarantee that would let the Jets off the hook following the season. considering the stickler seems to be the amount of guaranteed money, I'm willing to bet Revis isn't going to accept the kind of guarantee money that would only be applicable to a single season's amount.
Here's how I break down the risks for the Jets in terms of signing Revis to a record contract: 1. The salary cap set by the new CBA is hard to determine at this date. The owners clearly want to give the players less of the revenue that the NFL generates. Unless the owners can find a way to increase revenues that means cap numbers are going to have to be reduced in the new agreement. The owners will try to sell a lower cap to the players by putting in a rookie wage scale that prevents veterans from feeling as much of the pinch of the lower cap. It's very possible that all the top end salaries of the last few years are going to be untenable for teams moving forward. Getting stuck with a huge contract on the cap if this happens is something that should be reserved for Daniel Snyder, Al Davis and the Giants and Colts. At least the latter two will be paying for their QB. 2. Revis could get hurt. Yes, he's rightly worried that he might get hurt and lose a lot of his earning potential, nothing wrong with that. The Jets however also need to be worried that he might get hurt and never perform for the bonus they pay out right now and any guarantees they make down the road. Cap space consumed by pro-rated bonus money is the same whether a player plays or doesn't. 3. Revis could never be as dominant as he looked last year again. He got lucky on a half dozen plays last season (Brady and Manning both missed wide open receivers twice against him without pressure bearing down on them) and if those had connected he'd have looked just great, not all-time great. On top of that there's no guarantee that he can produce that kind of performance on demand. Babe Ruth hit 60 homers once, not year after year. Paying Revis until 2015 as if he was Darrelle Revis circa 2009 will look kind of silly if he turns out instead to be Darrelle Revis circa 2008 for all those seasons. 4. He's a cornerback. I know this seems over-stated at times, but cornerbacks don't have a significant win-share in the NFL. If you look at where a team's wins (and losses) come from you draw the inevitable conclusion that the pecking order for wins in the NFL goes something like this: QB, LT, NT, LDT, MLB, RB, etc. Way down the list are the cornerbacks, after the safeties even. They're close to the end of the list with the WR's, which makes sense given that these are the guys who patrol the edge of the field and all the action evolves from the inside to the outside. Like a half dozen things have to be done right on both sides of the ball before a cornerback or wide receiver even matters. That's not to say that having a great guy on the edge isn't a plus, because it is, but not having great guys inside of him because you paid him like he was a great inside guy really hurts you over time. Cornerbacks and wide receivers who suck can cost you a lot of games but the great ones don't gain you a lot unless they're replacing guys who can't play the position. 5. Finally, Mike Tannenbaum can't afford to deal with everybody he's going to have to deal with over the next season to try to lock up as many of the talented players on the Jets as he can in the context that he paid Darrelle Revis all-time money. He isn't going to get any brownie points from the other players for doing the "right thing" by Revis. They're all going to want big money also. Somewhere he's got to find a solid half dozen star level contracts in the budget and making them all go +10% because he went +50% for Revis is going to be a back-breaker. He's also got to deal with replacing his defensive line in a year or two, and unlike cornerbacks great defensive linemen are hard to find and harder to lockup cheap.
