The Darrelle Revis No Longer Holding Out Thread

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  1. 1968jetsfan

    1968jetsfan Well-Known Member

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    If Revis were a QB and the best player in the league he'd be worth what he's asking, perhaps more. If revis were the best player in the league AND able to shut down an opposing QB's entire passing attack he'd be worth what he's asking, and probably more. However, the most Revis can do is shut down one receiver, so a fair comparison would be his value compared to the the best or highest paid receiver since that's all he can shut down in a game. The highest paid receiver gets around 10 million a year which would put Revis's comparative value at around 10 million a year since all he can do is counter one receiver. If the Jets have offered Revis 13 a year he'd best take it as that's 3 million over value.

    Overly simplistic I know, but a players real value to a team on defense is what he can offset in terms of the opposing offense. The most Revis can impact is one receiver on a play, unless of course the opposing offense is stupid enough to bunch all of their receivers in a 5 yard area...then Revis would be worth 20 million a year, but I doubt any offense, with or without Revis on the field, would ever put all their receivers in a 5 yard area on their route.
     
  2. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    He's not.

    Jenkins healthy commands 2 and 3 offensive players.

    Like the guy above just said..at the end of the day hes a CB.
     
  3. DarrelleRevis.Human?

    DarrelleRevis.Human? Well-Known Member

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    to say that he's unimportant is more than a stretch of the facts but I believe he's is more important NOW then he was last year

    with him and Cro shutting down #1 & 2 WR's with Wilson and Lowery left to pick up the slack of a #3 slot guy or TE, I think it just make his role that much more intricate in the scheme of things to think your going to have to go to one of these other options if Revis has your #1 guy locked down

    does that mean he's worth the money or the fact that we would have to sacrafice resigning key players after this season absoloutely not

    bottom line he'll play, think of how long its been since this guy has went a year without football... he has too much skill and passion to sit out
     
  4. JfaulkNYJ

    JfaulkNYJ New Member

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    ya kellen clemens is more important to the jets too right?

    are you on drugs?
     
  5. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Well...sideways.


    What I really meant was....

    Clemens now is justified to employ Mevi$ logic.

    This is our chance at a ring.
    So pay me.

    If Sanchez misses time early, Clemens is the only one on the roster that knows the playbook.

    That's not very different than the argument Mevi$ is making.
     
  6. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Me?

    If you're looking to start a fight you can't win or be a jerkoff, listen to Tannenbaum.

    "Maybe we wait till next year"

    or Rex..

    "I've always been top 5, and we'll not be bullied by anybody"

    You don't have what it takes to not get your ass beat in this fight, so be smart and back out now.

    The two guys echoing my opinion, are the two guys that get paid to decide.

    Queer.

    P.S WSW that is as close to a personal attack as i got warned for.
     
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  7. JfaulkNYJ

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    start a fight? lol. take everything Tanny, and anybody who is running the Jets serious right when it comes to Revis...No don't, because thats stupid. Just like how you think an old Kris Jenkins who almost retired this year, and gets hurt every year is more valuable to this defense than a 25 year old Darrelle Revis.

    Revis takes away half a field, and frees up a man. I think that is a little more valuable than Kris Jenkins sorry, but your drinking the Tanny/Woody Johnson Kool-aid.
     
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    Clemens knows the playbook. wow amazing. I'd rather have fucking Schotty out there throwing the ball than Kellen Clemens.
     
  9. JetBlue

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    there is a huge difference between Revis being important himself and Revis being important as part of the unit. Revis' agents seem to think he is vital by himself, when he isn't, because his impact can be as easily neutralized as the receiver he is neutralizing. by taking only one player out of the game, he is also taking himself out of the game. that is why his importance is limited in the grand scheme of things.
     
  10. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Because you are an idiot.
     
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    calling me an idiot? you are the guy who thinks Kellen Clemens could win us 10 games.
     
  12. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Mevi$ takes away one and half guys max.

    Jenkins takes two, or your QB goes bye bye.

    That's a fact.

    But hey..lets do this...Lay out your proposal to get Mevi$ playing....(unless you are a sarcastic douchebag) and compare them to what I've laid out.

    At the end of the day that's rally the argument..how much team are you wiling to sacrifice.

    I would ask the mods to interpret a non response as a personal attack.
     
  13. JfaulkNYJ

    JfaulkNYJ New Member

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    why do you keep saying shit about personal attacks? so you dont get banned? maybe you should try to have a conversation without freaking out.

    Kris Jenkins cant play an entire game, and isnt as good as he used to be.

    Darrelle Revis can play every single snap. Who is more important Revis, or Jenkins? It's really not even that debatable.
     
  14. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    That's a fair opinion.

    While wrong...it's fair.

    Revis affects maybe 12 snaps a game.

    Jenkins affects every defensive snap.



    And a Corner whose been REPLACED (Cromartie)..means even less.

    The difference in this system between Mevi$ and AlCrotrazz...one or two plays, none scores?



    Look, I respect the fact that you might be a Mevi$ cockgobbler...but at the end of the day...CB is LMOTP in the Defense,



    P.S..the PA thing has less to do with you than the way this thread was handled earlier.
     
  15. JfaulkNYJ

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    I dont really support Revis, or the Jets in this. I think they are both being morons.

    Revis has an effect on every single snap due to people not throwing toward him, or the pass being incomplete.

    ALSO while Revis is doing that you can shift more coverage to the other side of the field, OR blitz the fuck out of the place.
     
  16. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Dude, Mevi$ owes the NYJ his services for 3 more years.Period.

    Nothing short of retiring changes that...are you a Jets fan, or a Mevi$ fan?
     
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    I know how to solve this problem!

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  18. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Only if this argument was happening in person...we need Applebees :wink:
     
  19. Harpua

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    This logic, as I've pointed out before, is so dumb its silly. As offensive coordinator. QB, or reciever who has to face Revis how many Snaps he affects. The Answer is ever defensive snap, because he is goign to nurtalize your best wepon in the passing game and he will come up and play run support.

    Quit pulling shit like this out of your ass and try to focus on the facts at hand, not stuff you make up.
     
  20. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Not accurate.you are the pulling the brown finger out to sniff.
     
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