The only way to feel that Woody came off as a prick there is if you had already decided Woody was a prick.
I think there were three options laid out for Revis - (i) a small bump for this year (reports said an additional $3 million), (ii) a 4 year deal, worth about $40 million, but with a lot more than $1 million for this year, probably $8 million or so with a big signing bonus, or (iii) a 10 year deal worth $120 million. Tanny's position on guaranteed amounts that he won't negotiate those until the total amount of the contract is set makes perfect sense as it is likely that a set percentage of the total deal is how the guarantee is established, so using a $160 million 10 year deal would provide a 33% bigger guarantee that a $120 million deal. At the end of the day this is a decision for Revis and his agents. My guess is that there's a good chance Revis' public reputation has been so far damaged by his agents shenanigans that he may already have cost himself over $10 million in endorsements over his career and potentially significantly more. The argument advanced by his agent that Revis is not protected right now and if he gets injured this year then he never sees the remaining $20 million doesn't sound right for the simple reason that if that were the concern I bet Tanny would agree to guarantee the $20 million and Revis would play for just $1 million this year. Of course, if there's a lockout for the next two years Revis would never get the $20 million anyway. At the end of the day, I'm sure the $120 million over 10 years with a significant percentage guaranteed (maybe 1/3rd of it?) would provide Revis and his family with plenty of security so his agent's argument is a crock. My guess is that Revis signs the $120 million deal with a week or two left in the preseason and plays. The jets will make some minor adjustments to it allowing Revis' agents to claim he "won" (which the jets would be smart to not dispute). At the end of the day with 3 years left on his contract Revis and his agent don't have a lot of cards. I guess he could hold out for the next three years (if there's no lockout in 2011 and 2012), but its hard to believe anyone would agree to pay him serious money after being away from football for 3 years, but I guess Al Davis is always a possibility if he hasn't been institutionalized by then. If Revis doesn't get his big deal this year because he holds out, there's a pretty good chance he never will and if his agents think otherwise then they're not serving Revis very well. At some point Revis has to get involved and inject some sanity into this process. Of course professional athlete's agents are not always known for being reasonable.
LOL, and Cakes, who didn't see the show, addresses the obvious point that we all failed to realize. Well done. :up: That should have been the first thing that crossed my mind when I saw he thought it was Revis.
So then who is this "whole family" he has to take care of and why he is holding out for 3 billion dollars? Just his mother and uncle Sean? They all have to worry about their "family". It's always their "family".
A lot of talking heads on the radio point to an alledged promise Mike T made to Revis, saying he would make him the highest paid CB. So, they claim because the Jets won't offer 160 mil at 16 mil a year, that alledged promise was broken. But was it, really, even if it had been made? If Revis signs a 120 mil/10 year contract, that would easilly be the richest contract any CB ever got by a loooooong shot. Now, if Revis would agree to 120 mil, they could even front load it to surpass Aso's salary for this year and next. He would still be the highest paid CB. This is ALL on Revis and Schwartz. 100% on them.
I'm with you on that, sir. Somewhere (it may have been early in this thread) I got into a debate about this "family" stuff with CatoTheElder. Every player has a family of some sort. Why is Revis' family more important than say, Robert Turner's family or Jamaal Westerman's family? I don't think players should mention their families when they are trying to get new deals. Just don't bring your family into it. When Latrell Sprewell took this tact he received backlash for it. Sprewell talked as if he was a homeless man. It was like if he didn't get a new deal he was going to have to scrounge around in NYC alleyways for scraps of food to feed his kids.
Yep and what's sad is that since Revis is so good, no other contract will beat his when other CBs re-up their contracts. Just get the fuck in camp.
I'm starting to agree with some of what has been said in this thread lately, mainly, that Schwartz is probably just playing ridiculous hard ball only to make his next offer look really appealing to the Jets. That he's allowing Revis to sit out in order to make this play is unfortunate, but holding out is definitely a tool that these agents have used in the past and they're using it again. I really think the final deal will be a 10 year 120-130 million dollar deal with 40-50 guaranteed, and I think it may even be frontloaded to make Revis the highest paid CB until Nnamdi's deal expires.
The Jets are the most over hyped team in recent memory. Many Jets' fans, spurred on by Rex Ryan, really believe they will win the SB this year. If/when the Jets finish around .500 and out of the PO's, Jets' fans and the NY media will be looking for a scapegoat. Enter Revis. If Revis misses the season (unlikely), his absence will be cited for the Jets underachieving. Even if he signs, his holdout will be blamed for causing a distraction which the team couldn't overcome. Revis will be known as the player whose greed cost the Jets a SB title. The Jets' best player may be their most hated.
this holdout will be but a footnote at the end of the season. When he finally arrives with a week or two left of TC, even if he's not at 100% by week 1 by week 4-5 he will be back to last seasons form and noone will remember this
yes, a team that made it to the AFC Championship game with a rookie head coach and QB who will both have a year of experience behind them and should improve, of which improving from the AFC title game can only be making it to the Super Bowl, plus significant additions to two of their weakest positions -- receiver and CB -- are certainly overrated when people expect them to achieve the expected improvement which can only mean Super Bowl. is it logic or simply basic intelligence that you lack?
Oh, sorry I must have misread it. Or I was left with another impression... sumpthin like that. Assman, NOT Asshat. Gotta remember that.
there isnt any point in arguing with them(trolls)... let them think what they want... we will have the last laugh... this guy doesnt even have the balls to make it clear which team he roots for.
