I saw my 1st real game footage of D'brick. The man has the weirdest O-Lineman frame I have ever Seen! Long Legs, Tall and Kinda Thin for a Lineman.. Weird!
Using the same reasoning, there is no reason to draft a QB at #4. We have Pennington, who will only improve with more time to heal. And we have Bollinger, who played about as well as Jones and is very very cheap. Why waste the #4 pick on a QB when we have two players there already. And don't waste it on a running back either. Houston played Ok when he was in there and will only get better. In fact, we shouldn't draft Mario Williams either, because even if Abe is traded, we have Bryan Thomas to play DE, and he really improved this year from horrible to average and with more playing time, who knows, he may get better also. We should only draft a player at a position that has no clear starter, like C or RT or DT. To hell with the best available athlete or drafting to improve an important position. Let's just fill holes and leave the cheap average players where they are. In due time, the Jets will rise to be an 8-8 team with that thinking.
i will admit you made some good points except for pennington improving with more time. the man barely had an arm before his 1st injury. i would love to believe you there but in reality it's not gonna happen. now about the #4 pick if cutler is there we should take him. let pennington struggle for a year then put cutler in. i dont want young even though i think he will be very good even though he's dumb as hell. but im more for us trading down a few spots but try to stay in the top 10 though and pick up lendale i think this guy is gonna be a beast in the nfl. we sure as hell can use the upgrade.
I don't think his point was to pass on Ferg just because we have Jones--rather #4 is too high for an OT when we already have one who is serviceable. More importantly, I totally agree with Rob when he suggests trading down and taking a RB. My suggestion is get a RB or QB at #1--I don't think Pennington and Martin have much left and we better address those skill positions SOON with a high pick.
Exactly. We shouldn't use a top 5 pick on a lineman, especially when the position is filled. When you have a top 5 pick, you gotta use it wisely.
Exactly...you said it perfectly. To pass up a most likely perennial Pro-Bowler stud left tackle in D'Brick, a LT who can anchor any line for 10-15 years, is not done by saying, "Oh, wait, we have Adrian Jones." Though I'm not in favor of drafting him due to the fact that simply this year's draft is a one deep in the OL department, Adrian Jones does not give me any reassurances that the LT position is set. But I do agree with RobA on one part...trade down and take DeAngelo. I wouldn't complain about D'Brick, but this draft is a deep OL draft. With so many other needs, what better way to develop a young, budding star like DeAngelo, who, IMO, can be the next LaDainian, than under the tutelage of one of the game's best ever at the position, Curtis? By picking up an extra second rounder when trading down, it would be possible to address the OL with both picks in that round (Jean-Gilles, Trueblood, Colledge, Mangold).
it can be hard to pick up sarcasm when its typed. From now on, if something is sarcastic lets put it in italics
SERVICABLE is not good enough when it comes to LT. He is responsible for the safety of the QB more than any other O-Lineman. When the QB sets up to deliver the long ball, or play action fakes, his back is completely turned and exposed. He depends on the LT to protect his blind side. Servicable is not good enough, a player to "fill" the position is not good enough. Unless you want more QBs on the IR. The next question is: Is Brick a franschise LT? I think he is. That is why I want him drafted. Because when he do get our franchise QB, I want him vertical, not on his back.
I am not going against you wanting D'Brick, but if we draft a Franchise QB he more than likely will be on the bench so how do you figure he will get the crap knocked out of him...and alos there are other rounds to address LT other than the 1st...
But no LT in the other rounds have the upside of LT, IMO. I maybe wrong, I am no GM and haven't read any team scouting reports, but no other LT in the draft has impressed me like Brick. He has the raw ability that can develop into a pro-bowl level. Just my take. As for you other point. It takes an O-Line time to gel, to be able to anticipate what the other players are going to do. I want this to happen as quickly as possible, so when our franchise QB, does take the field he does not have to worry about the OLine. The better talent, the faster this will happen, in more cases than not. So in my humble opinion, it would be a mistake to pass on Brick.
There is a reason no one has the upside that Brick has...its because he is the top rated OT in the draft...
That's what I don't get. People on this board complain nonstop about the lack of talent, and then seem to have no issue at all with "servicable" lineman. The fact is that the OL is the most important unit on the team, bar none. If that unit is broken, or even just "servicable", then you watch your team sink into the depths of a 6-10 season. LT is a position where "solid" isn't even good enough. You need to have a stud in there, and Ferguson is that stud. I'd have no issue at all drafting him, and moving Jones back to RT. Servicable doesn't cut it at LT or Center. Never has, never will.
