I do not agree. Not going to argue about it tonight. I think I hear the sandman coming around the corner.
I agree to an extent, I think with baseball you have more elite players as opposed to the NBA but I think the stat thrown out was OKC was the 1st Western Conference team not named Dallas, San Antonio or Lakers in 15 years to make the Finals. You look at how many teams have played in the WS over the same time period Compare MLB 1998 Yankees - Padres 1999 Yankees - Braves 2000 Yankees- Mets 2001 Diamondbacks - Yankees 2002 Angels - Giants 2003 Marlins - Yankees 2004 Red Sox - Cardinals 2005 White Sox - Astros 2006 Cardinals - Tigers 2007 Red Sox - Rockies 2008 Phillies - Rays 2009 Yankees - Phillies 2010 Giants - Rangers 2011 Cardinals - Rangers NBA 1998 Bulls - Jazz 1999 Spurs - Knicks (short season) 2000 Lakers - Pacers 2001 Lakers - 76ers 2002 Lakers - Nets 2003 Spurs - Nets 2004 Pistons - Lakers 2005 Spurs - Pistons 2006 Heat - Mavericks 2007 Spurs - Cavs 2008 Celtics - Lakers 2009 Lakers- Magic 2010 Lakers - Celtics 2011 Mavericks - Heat 2012 Heat- Thunder (short season) In the NBA you've had 7 teams win the last 15 titles but in baseball 9 different teams with very few repeats. I could go much larger and double it to 30 years and I'm sure the statistics would prove that a team in MLB has a better shot to win a title then in the NBA. It's always been that way in the NBA, between 1980 and 1998 there were only 11 teams to play in the Finals many of them repeats on the list from above.
I guess, but at the same time in baseball you got 5 years where its not either the Yankees/Phillies/Red Sox in the world series vs basketball is the same amount for not either the Heat/Lakers. both leagues are pathetic, and its a huge part of wwhy theyll never match the nfl
Howard is one dumb ass. Why in hell wouldn't he want to play for the Lakers? He not about winning if he was in would love to play with Lakers. Kobe,Gasol,Nash and Howard they would win a title this year and next.
They will never match the NFL because the NFL doesn't play long seasons. If you made NFL teams play longer seasons, you would see the same thing as in baseball and basketball in my opinion. The shorter season allows for not so good teams to sneak in and get hot. In fact, the NBA probably is the best playoff that determines the actually best team. The NFL definitely does not (which is a good thing) and the MLB shortens a 162 game season to 19 games at most so they really don't either. (Which again is a good thing for them. They want NY, BOS, PHI in the playoffs, but they want them to lose) Another problem with stars wanting to go the big market is the salary cap. To be honest, some of these stars should be getting WAY more than they make no because there is a cap. I don't know how it would work without one, but it would let owners keep stars by offering them as much money as they want. I don't know how get rid of teams and make it fair though. Like cutting Minny, who gets Love and Rubio? Cutting MIL, who gets Brandon Jennings? And the NBA has as many superstars as other leagues, but in the NBA you can affect the game much more than any sport. QB's don't play defense or special teams and pitchers pitch every 5 days and hitters can be pitched around. The NBA will never ever be balanced. It is terrible that it will be tough to do but I don't see it happening. I think the biggest problem is dumb owners though. Landry Fields got 20 million for 3 years, Gerald Wallace 40 for 4, Jeff Green 40 for 4. These owners complain that they overpay players, but on each one of those deals, the team chose the price not the market.
i think hump is a below avg defender ... bigs had their way against him and brook in 2010-2011 i like that were going after kenyon, but i think jamison would be a bad fit, hes a worse defender than hump ideally, we could pry gibson away from the bulls ... young, athletic, shot blocker, attacks the rim, cheap contract (this year), wont get in lopez's way on offense, and can guard the quick 4's in the league ... great fit next to lopez, imo
i think this has more to do with the first round of the mlb playoffs only being a best of five ... if you look at the top 4 playoff seeds in each conference in the nba and compare it to the teams that make the playoffs in mlb, youll probably see much of the same teams
When the Nets put a billboard up like that across from the Garden, they opened themselves up to it, especially when the the whole motive fell on its face. I'm not on here talking up the Knicks and I rarely post in the Nets thread, but that's funny. And this is still a rivalry to those of us who are basketball diehards in the area, no matter who is good or not at the moment. I wouldn't mind the Nets being good, actually, as long as the Knicks are good to I'd be into it. Rooted for you guys in the Finals twice, too.
Lol how'd this turn into a baseball thread. Baseball was my 2nd favorite behind football, then the strikess and work stoppages of the 90s followed by the collapse of the steroid era and the fact there's too many games for me to not feel like I've wasted my time watching one until playoffs. Baseball has more parody than basketball. That's not debatable. I find it far more entertaining to watch a regular season game of bball than baseball. That's just my opinion. Although MLB is coming back with a good variety of young superstars as NBA iss turning into a league with a. Ton of dead teams floating around.
how did the whole motive fall on its face? the nets went from a lame duck franchise with the worst record in the league to a probable top 4 seed in the conference in two years and the second (or third) best player in the nba wants to play in BK over any other team in the league, that was the motive
Get to 500 first before basing your argument on "probable" anything. As I recall the billboard by the Garden was a slap at the Knicks when both teams were trying to get Lebron, which failed. Then they tried to get Carmelo whom we got. We've at least gotten over 500 and back to the playoffs twice.
and have done absolutely nothing in the playoffs, the Nets future looks brighter than the knicks even w/o the Howard deal.
The Nets future always looks bright, somehow it never translates into the present. How many years now have we heard the Nets are on the way up? And it's always based on speculation. It was going to be Lebron and John Wall with their #1 pick, then it was going to be Carmelo, then it was going to be Dwight Howard. Please.
You do remember when Isiah was sexually harrassing women in the office and signing stiffs like Eddy Curry and overrated players like Stephon Marbury the Nets did win the Eastern Conference two years in a row? Not that it matters but both teams have played in exactly 2 NBA finals in my lifetime and I'm in my mid 30's. I know a lot of Nets fans have this rivalry with the Knicks but I don't, I'm the only Net fan in my family but I think if the Knicks were actually good maybe I would dislike them like I do the Yankees and Giants.
No point in arguing, as is both teams are gonna make the playoffs. And neither team is going to do shit once they get there They each might win a series if they can finish in the top 6, but neither of these teams are legit contenders atm
Are there any "legit" contenders in the East other then Miami? Boston is a year older and sans Ray Allen. Indiana doesn't have the ability to beat Miami over the course of 7 games. I could go out on a limb and say next year's NBA Finals will be the Miami Heat vs 1 of 3 teams in the West... OKC, San Antonio or the Lakers.
One of them is going to win a series because they are going to be the 4-5 matchup. Knicks/Nets was never a rivalry to me as a Knicks fan. They were in NJ and we were in NY. We were slightly good at the same time when we were on our downfall from the 90s and you were on an upswing in the early 2000s. I never had a problem with the Nets. I liked Kidd and Kmart too so that helped. My overall basketball fan is kicking in where I think a NY rivalry we be awesome for the sport. Maybe this year I start disliking them? But as of right now Pacers, 76ers, Celtics, Heat, Bucks, Bobcats I all dislike mroe than the Nets. Probably even more if I keep on thinking.
