The Breece Conundrum

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  1. ouchy

    ouchy Well-Known Member

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    IMO the mistake people here make is that each pick is to fill a hole, etc. Like each pick exists in a vacuum. Now that were truly rebuilding our drafts should be different than they have been the last 5 years. In reality we should have rebuild plan and each pick goes toward generating that plan. Plans go way beyond just adding players. So pick 44 needs to be a smart pick for the rebuild plan. This year, or next year, we will have to draft another RB. So it depends what our GMs plan is?

    To be fair, I said most RBs don't improve after their rookie contract. If you can cite 3 RBs, or 5, or 10, out of 60, that's a low percentage. But yeah, some do. What makes you think after the last 3 years that Breece will improve with age and not slowly decline? Is he the guy that can take over in the playoffs when it matters? Or move the chains and run out the clock when we have a lead? He hasn't shown he can do either of those things. His value is very average. Are people here actually serious about building a champion?
     
  2. Jets79

    Jets79 Well-Known Member

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    How about Derrick Henry?

    He’s been pretty good I’d say!!
     
  3. Jets79

    Jets79 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry…I just disagree with your whole position, which is fine….that’s why we are here.

    I guess I just value him more than you do…on a team with literally no playmakers outside of GW, and even then GW isn’t really a take it to the house guy, whereas Hall has shown that ability, I just disagree with the “well he’s just an average back”. I don’t think he is. I think he’s not quite at that elite level but he’s pushing at that…and I’d like to see what he could do with a coaching staff that understands how to use him…he’s been underused all along. Reich will be the best OC he’s played under I’m guessing, and our OL finally looks at least average.

    I disagree with creating more holes when we have so many already.

    Granted a RB isn’t typically a central factor in a rebuild, but for a team so starved for playmakers, I don’t see any logic in letting one of our only two guys go for nothing.

    And I think we disagree on the vision thing…I think he actually has pretty damn good vision, you see him bounce runs out into holes plenty.

    The one bugaboo I think he needs to work on is fumbles…can’t have an RB who fumbles, and he’s seemed to get some at inopportune times…not sure what his fumble rate is and if it’s higher than other backs, but if not higher, then maybe unluckier in terms of when they happen and how often we lose the ball on them. Don’t know that.

    But overall, I would try hard to keep him, even if it means franchising him, and if it does come to that, I totally understand that it may mean a tag and trade really … hard to make a guy be here if he really doesn’t want to be here….I could see him not signing the tag for sure if it comes to that.
     
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  4. NOVAJET

    NOVAJET 2020 and 2025 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    My post said "if" they let him walk they should have taken the 4th.
     
  5. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    That guy is a freak. I can’t even use him as a comparison but yes you’re right.
     
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  6. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle 1992 Rookie of the Year

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    Questions make no sense. Yeah, Breece Hall hasn't taken over a playoff game. The team he plays on has been eliminated in October, he hasnt had an opportunity. Yeah, were serious about building a champion. Championship teams start with good players and he's a good player.
     
  7. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    When has he ever been Cook, Barkley, Taylor or Henry to start with?

    Guy just broke 1000 yards for the first time ffs
     
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  8. bleedgreen

    bleedgreen Well-Known Member

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    we have no QB, a porous defense, 1 WR and people want to create another hole to fill. BH is good enough. I wish we had a QB, a second receiver, an edge rusher, etc. that are just as good as Hall. How much are we paying Ruckert?
     
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  9. JetsNation06

    JetsNation06 Well-Known Member

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    Breece Hall isn't an elite RB,

    He is an above average back but that's it. Top 20 in the league which is fine. However with so many draft picks and so many talented college backs and FA backs, you don't need to invest $13-$14M into Breece. If the Jets were a RB away from competing for a deep playoff run well that's a different story. However they're at least a few years away from that so save the money and invest it wisely into another area

    Also, Hall has never looked as explosive as he did since that 2022 game against Denver. It's just reality. We found a really nice back but he got hurt and he's never been the same since. The sign of a strong, good Front Office is knowing when to move on and cut your losses before it comes back to bite you.

    Enough with the overvaluing of him. Jets should let Hall walk especially with all the attitude stuff that some of you post on here about him not wanting to be here. I never read any of that stuff personally but if true, then all the more reason to show him the door.

    The Jets need to be smart and draft a RB, or give Etienne $10M/year and call it a day. I like how shifty Etienne is and he gets to top speed quicker than Breece. Jets should also try to sign JK Dobbins for cheap.

    Back to college, Indiana has two RB's that can both be had in the 4th round or later. They both look like early contributors. Jets have a lot of options. Don't be lazy and just give Breece $14M/year just because you think it solves one of our positional needs. That's fiscally irresponsible with a lot of options on the table.
     
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  10. ouchy

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    In the playoffs a solid running attack is a difference maker. But I meant when was the last time you saw him take over any game?
    Its not really creating another hole because he's not going to be here long term anyways. RB is going to be a need for us no matter what the next few years. Unless he decides to sign a workman contract, which I don't see him doing. Anyone that wants to give him over 10 million a year is nuts. We can get a better player for a fraction of that.

    A DT that requires a double team and can control the middle is a bigger need than edge right now. Replacing Q is one of our biggest challenges. And there are some decent DTs to be had at 16. The Breece question is minor compared to what we need to do at DT.
     
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  11. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle 1992 Rookie of the Year

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    Right he had 997 lol
     
  12. JackBower

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    All time Saleh one liner, that he mathematician wasn't available or something when he was asked post game why he didn't get Breece his 3 more yards.

    That was the final nail for me, JAG jackass. I don't see him ever being a good HC.
     
  13. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle 1992 Rookie of the Year

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    Now it’s “any game”?
    Thats easy. Last time was 130 yards and 2 TDs in a 39-38 win at Cincinnati
     
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  14. Borat

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    When you talk about lack of explosiveness, it's just not the case. Can you explain why he was able to achieve the following if he is not explosive:
    • He recorded 26 explosive runs (runs of 10+ yards) during the 2025 campaign. Breece Hall's 26 explosive runs (carries of 10+ yards) ranked 12th among NFL running backs during the 2025 season.
    • While he ranked in the top 12 for total explosive carries, his efficiency in generating these plays was even more impressive; his 8.64% explosive run rate placed him in the top 5 in the league among qualified starters.
    • Explosive Rate: Hall's 8.64% rate was nearly identical to league leader Jahmyr Gibbs (8.64%) and outperformed other high-volume stars like James Cook (8.74%) and Jonathan Taylor (8.05%) in frequency per attempt
    • Long-Distance Threat: Hall was one of the most dangerous vertical threats in 2025, tying for 3rd among RBs with three carries where he reached a top speed of at least 20 MPH.
    I am just not sure what the expectation is for being "explosive"? The guy seems to be clearly top 1/3d RB in the NFL and maybe better if we ever have balanced offense. He is as explosive when given opportunities as anyone in the League statistically, and reaches speeds top amongst RBs.

    One of the things I did not like about Tanner is that he did not use Breece enough, especially given the above. It would have been a big mistake to trade him for just a 4th when we have control over him via tag and Mooge correctly didn't do it. It's too easy of a decision to tag him, which I fully expect Mooge to make. Breece is one of a few good things we have going for us.
     
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  15. JetsNation06

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    The dude barely broke 1,000 yards this year and he was literally the entire offense. Top 1/3rd RB would have him as top 11. I'd say he's more like top half of NFL RB's as he's right about 15 I would say. Ironically, that's where he ended the year in rushing yards.

    At most, I'd tag him and give him a 1 year prove it contract. I think he could be replaced through the draft and FA. I'd like to see him be the difference maker in a close game. Dominant is not something I associate with him at all.
     
  16. NYJetsO12

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    Good players with decent production need to be rewarded and his attitude helps build team cohesion

    There’s no doubt in my mind the management will let him go lol
     
  17. mrjet80

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    I’m in the TAG camp. He’s still a dangerous RB and If they don’t tag him he’s most likely a goner. Keep him for ‘26 while they fill more glaring holes. Then make a decision next offseason. It is a slight gamble. Depending on what kind of year he has he may wind up costing more to extend if that’s what DM prefers. If not he walks as a FA but on the flip side he would be a year older and most likely not as productive considering he’s being allowed to walk.

    If they let him walk now it’s another hole to fill and there’s just too many needs. Next offseason hopefully tells a different story.
     
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  18. Borat

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    I think he is actually better than #15, but let's say say he is #15 in the NFL. Do you think you can get one of the 14 RBs who are better here for same or less money that him? I highly doubt it. Or spend a 4th round pick to get someone better? No way. We already spent two mid round picks for RBs we have on the reoster, they are no where near Breece's level. And we spend two more before on Izzy and Carter, both waived. That's 4 mid round picks invested, 4, and not a single one is even close to Hall's level. I am not even sure you can get a better one with second round pick or even #16 overall.

    And I do not want to spend these picks on a RB, when we can just tag the one we have, who is top 15 in the NFL, and focus on other needs. We have too many problems to solve, let's not add another big one. It just makes no sense to open up another hole even if he is #15, and he may be better than that. No sense at all.
     
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  19. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    So he didnt break 1000 yards then, thar has been the litmus test for a running back for years and now they have more games to do it in but glad you found it funny.
     

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