The Bills are screwed for years to come...

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  1. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    With the Jets 5-11 or 6-10 would be rebuilding. For the Bills it would be the continuation of a failed rebuilding process.

    For all the doom and gloom around here I still see the Jets as at least the second best positioned team moving forward from here. The Dolphins haven't been in the playoffs since 2001 and their rebuilding process is apparently stalled at the moment with some real questions on offense and Culpepper's knee hanging over their head on every play. The Bills are just perenially hopeless at this point with disjointed player acquisitions that never seem to add up.

    So that leaves the Patriots as the clear class of the division and the Jets as most likely to re-emerge from the doldrums over the next few years.

    For people who want to project the Dolphins as up and coming just be aware that three of their starters on the offensive line are 29 or 30 and six of their front seven on defense are 30 or older already. That's not rebuilding, that's going for one last whirl on the rollercoaster before it goes off the tracks. And unfortunately it hasn't made a complete circuit since 2001 anyway...
     
  2. lightning

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    Oh yea, because drafting a 2nd round QB doesn't help the problem? :rolleyes:....Moron.
     
  3. WW85

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    That's like saying drafting a player projected in Rd 3 is worth a 1st rd pick since he hasn't played yet.......good one sport. Value, Value Value is the the key to properly drafting in the correct spot. You need to learn about the draft process and how it works.......DW..Reach. JM.....Reach.

    Sorry you wrong ...BUD!

    BILLS......the worst FO in the NFL...Period!!!
     
  4. BuffaloBills06

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    So we should cut our losses with a QB that played in only 8 games and is still unproven and draft another QB who is also unproven. I think I will go with letting JP play and see if he is a bust instead of cutting or making him a second stringer. I bet the Falcons wished they would have done that but thats another story.
     
  5. Bricket-head

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    And apparently our FO is at fault for not trading two 1st round picks, a 2nd rounder, Mangini's newborn son, breastmilk from a Swahili virgin, and my whole Ninja Turtles collection to trade up for Reggie Bush.
     
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    I think this guy could be an insider with the bills organization. This is what he said a couple of weeks before the draft:
    Hell, it could be Marv himself. Taking Justice with the 8th pick? Sounds like the old man to me!
     
  7. BuffaloBills06

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    hindsight is mutha aint it. At the time wasnt Justice rated the number 2 Tackle in the draft. If you guys believe Whitner was such a reach as the so called draft gurus said, then why did Polian have Whitner rated on his draft board as the best safety prospect in the draft? Polian has been an excellent evaluater of talent so I will take his word for it. You guys can say all you want about the Bills, but you should really wait until the season starts and games are played before you make an opinion. After watching the Bears and Sabres last year I will wait until the season starts before predicting failure.
     
  8. SOWELLisGOD

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    :bills_suck: :bills_suck: :bills_suck: :bills_suck:
     
  9. DROB63Cmart28

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    The bills just flat out suck. Their gonna suck for a while too while not being competetive in the division. Thats a good thing though one less team to worry about.
     
  10. NY Vilmaniac

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    not even close......LIONS

    at least the bills dont have fans holding up signs and chanting to fire the gm
     
  11. boogerstyles

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    mike and mark on NFL live both recently picked the bills to have more wins then the jets because of "defense and special teams"...
     
  12. mr nyjet

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    as opposed to trading two 1st round picks and a 4th to get drob?:shit:

    as opposed to trading away a 1st round pick for jolley to avoid paying a first round contract?:rofl:
     
  13. Jonathan_Vilma

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    We also didn't take positions that we can work around or reach for anyone major. We have two safeties from the mid rounds, that are both successful starters and Rhodes has to have about as equal of a celing as Whitner does.

    We've made the smart picks, and haven't given up picks we don't need. It's clear Leinart and Cutler didn't wow the coaching staff much, whereas Kellen Clemens did. Not to mention we still have a WINNER at quarterback that's finally healthy, and plenty of backup plans who have upside. What's Kelly Holcomb's upside?
     
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    Hindsight is 20/20 in this case. If you were to ask anyone in that draft, they would've told you that Robertson was the surefire pick, and without a doubt the next big defensive tackle. It was the consensus feeling during the draft and the lineman guru himself, Parcells thought highly of DeWayne.

    The fact that we're saying only several months later that it was a huge reach says a lot more than it did for Robertson who EVERYONE wanted. Belicheck, Parcells, and our coaching staff.

    We got Justin Miller, Doug Jolley and Mike Nugent over a Marlin Jackson whom is struggling in Indianapolis. Not to mentioned we're under new management which has yet to make a mistake.
     
  15. WW85

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    I had no problem with both moves, especially D-Rob.

    Jolley, for a first round pick?????......your not a newbie, you know that's bullshit.
    1st round pick.....for Jolley, Nugent or Miller(either way you look at it) and Houston. It wasn't a money saving move. Bradway was right.......the value of players available in late Rd 1 to Mid 2nd Rd were very close. Most Jet Fans didn't want Heath Miller, before the trade (after he did well in Pitt, they jumped on his bandwagon, Monday morning QBs).........Justin Miller or Marlin Jackson was the consenus of most with our late rd 1 pick.
     
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  16. Br4d

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    I hated every move that Bradway made in the first round in his tenure as Jet's GM. I was right on all of them too except for Vilma.

    Trading a bunch of value to move up rarely works in the NFL. Especially when you are trading up into the top 10 where value is already distorted beyond recognition.

    If Bradway had been running the show in 2006 we would have traded a bunch of picks this year and next to move up for Bush and we'd be a dead franchise.
     
  17. WW85

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    I wouldn't expect anything less, seeing your User name :). I'm far from Bradway fan, and have bashed many of his moves. But, drafting Dewayne was a very popular move on this board and in hindsight, an OK move. Remeber BellaChicken, tried despartely, to get ahead of the Jets for D-Rob. Who did you want for DT, our biggest need????......Sullivan, Kennedy, Joseph, Williams...........Robertson is better than all of them at the DT position, since Williams was converted to DE. Sullivan and Kennedy were MEGA BUSTS. Joseph, isn't better than Robertson.

    Look at the First Round of 2003 after our 14th pick the only players I would want would be Polamalu.

    If we kept the 14th & 22nd picks........IMO, Joseph and Barrnet would have been Jets. The Jets were very High on Barrnet.....ala no Vilma in 2004.
     
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  18. NY Vilmaniac

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    i hear that more and more around here
     

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