Except he's never accomplished anything significant in his career. I don't care about what players from the past are saying about him, especially with the evolution of football that has taken place since any of them had last played. If he even remotely had a good resume I would be all for it, he doesn't though. There is nothing impressive about this guy from a football standpoint. His character really bothers me too, he had bailed on every significant opportunity he has been given thus far. People can say he made an impact on Syracuse and the Bills and had them on the up and up but that doesn't mean a thing to me because the guy has never stayed around long enough to see if he really could accomplish some good things with the teams he has coached. No way in hell do I want him as the next HC of the NYJ.
Wow, are you completely clueless on him....you're definately drinking the marrone cool aid being served by his SU Alum lackeys in the media. He's offense was atrocious. 28th overall. They finished below the Jets. His offensive line was god awful. The rushing attack was one of the worse in football. Arguably with more weapons at his disposal. His over conservative nature cost him probably two games and earned him the nickname "4th and Doug". Ironically his best games came against the Jets. I've seen every single game this man has coached from SU till now. and if you think he's this brilliant offensive mind that's gonna turn the Jets around you are sadly mistaken. I didn't touch on how thinned skinned he is. No thank you. Not interested at all.
Also. The guy is supposed to be an offensive minded coach but his offenses suck. Makes no sense to want the guy.
I don't know if Marrone would ultimately work for the Jets. Make all the comparisons you want, but he has the same problem that 99% of the head coaches in the NFL have: if you don't have a quarterback, chances are your team is going to suck. There are exceptions, but as we've seen with Rex's Jets, those exceptions to tend to come and go quickly. Marrone seems like a good fit personality wise and can improve on a lot of Rex's weaknesses. The Jets need to prioritize the acquisition of a quarterback as that is the most surefire way to win in this league. I'm not throwing my support behind Marrone as "the guy", but I think if he does end up being the choice, then it is not at all a bad one.
I haven't seen one bit of convincing material from the "yay Marrone" crowd other than articles pointing out that he's a local guy, he's a disciplinarian and he turned around the Syracuse program, aka made them a .500 team. That's the definition of being swayed by the media. You keep reading your rah rah sis boom bah articles, I'll keep looking at his body of work. One tells the actual story, the other tells the story that newspapers want you to hear.
Let's see: Trust guys that are paid tons of money to do this business. Guys like Casserly, Wolf and multiple NFL execs. Trust hall of famers like Curtis Martin or players like Brandon Moore and Kevin Mawae who have played under this exact coach. Or... Trust forum members who, including myself, don't know horseshit comparer to the above guys. Hmmmmmmm..... This is a tough one
Are you serious? There has been a lot of facts that hinder the Moron train. Offensive minded coach, yet his offenses suck. He doesn't have a winning record with any team he has been the HC of. He hasn't accomplished anything at all that suggests he is a good coach. He is not a loyal person in general, why would anyone think he would be commited to this team? That's just the short list.
If they hire him I guarantee fans will be calling for his firing by season 2....2015 will be a "rebuilding" year...Serby, Cimini, Schien pushing for this guys hire is a complete joke....for once I agree with Manish Mehta on this....can't believe I said that... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Agreed here...what I look at is the Offensive Rank with the talent at his disposal. He was what...2 or 3 notches below the Jets. And I don't need to tell anyone how much we all bitched about the Jets offense this year...or last year...or the year before that and the year before that... Imagine being WORSE. And he did that with, definitely, a better QB, better receivers and about the same level of rushing attack. He may be a great o-line coach, per all the old Jets players, but that doesn't translate into being some fantastic offensive coordinator or head coach. As well...I do NOT bemoan anyone trading UP in their career. But to this posters point...he hasn't FINISHED anything. Just like anything else in this world...it's not how you start...it's how you finish. I'll give him the Syracuse bump to the NFL... But, now, he IS in the NFL...he was the Bills coach. What he NEEDED to do was shut his pie hole and coach the 3rd year on his existing contract and MAKE it so the Bills management had no choice but to extend him by fielding a quality football team and winning games. I see NO benefit of jumping to the Jets. We are nearly a damn mirror of the Bills. A solid defense, decent but not great talent and zero QB.
You are a puppet then. Don't follow the herd, make your own stance and beliefs. That gives you no credibility man, there are a lot of very smart people on this board and there are a lot of really stupid people in the NFL circles. It goes both ways. Try to think for yourself, its a forum, its kind of the whole point man. How many "experts" are consistently wrong every single day? It happens all the damn time. Ridiculous.
He helped turn Syracuse and Buffalo back on track and into the right directions. Took over both in bad shape. The Jets would be similar. He was a Raiders loss away from returning the hapless Bills franchise to the playoffs, so he has to be better than some say.
Buffalo is laughing at us....they couldn'tbe happier...and this is an organization that hasn't sniffed the playoffs since Bill Clinton was President Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I feel you Dark...but even you have to agree...he hasn't finished...he finished NEITHER of those programs... He actually accomplished nothing if you take it in that context. Yes, he got it started...but where's the "close?" He's not a closer. Hell, some of the arguments against Ryan is he never closed the deal. Who cares he got us to the AFCCG...still didn't win the SB. This guy wasn't around long enough in his two stints to prove he could close the deal by getting Syracuse to a bowl game or the Bills to the playoffs. Not sure what we are exactly getting here...one thing is for certain...we aren't getting an offensive guru...which is what we AND the Bills need. If either team have a top 10 offense they are both in the playoffs.
Let's call a spade a spade... the talent on the defensive side of the ball was drafted for him and it didn't all come together until he brought Schwartz in. And if you think Schwartz didn't make an impact, do some research and you can find breakdowns of the D from year to year. Couple that with the fact the Buffalo offense was WORSE than ours (Marrone's strong point right?) and then try to tell me what he did in Buffalo other than piss off management. He accomplished squat. And I have to laugh at Falco pointing out former players talking about how they loved playing for him. Coaches loved playing for Schottenheimer too, should we make him the OC?
So other posters can take your opinions seriously on this message board. If you want to be among those posters that nobody takes seriously and always skips over their posts because they are never thought out or educated posts. Then have at it. Not having your own views and beliefs and stating you will just believe whatever this guy or that guy says on NFL network, it takes away from anyone caring about what you have to say. Don't be a puppet. All I'm saying.
Couldn't have said it better myself. The KEY here is his supposed "side of the ball" was actually WORSE than the unit we all bitched about endlessly all year long. If our offense was that bad we'd have had posters committing Hari Kari!!!
