Yes, of course, because here I was thinking the Jets were a Montreal Canadians-type dynasty all these years. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
Of course, those Devils and that bore you to death game they played are basically responsible for killing professional hockey as a major league spectator sport. So you got that going for you. Which is nice.
we had plenty of cap room to make moves whether that was re-signing keller or adding other guys. Idzik took the approach to bit the bullet on year 1, to acquire more picks and cap room. That approach left us short handed for 2013 but idzik is about winning consistently in the future(I hope) and that approach should benefit us long term. I felt before all the injuries we were as good as anyone in '86 but that quickly went away in December. The season I felt we were the best was 1998, if we get Den at home we beat them. we played in a division w/ 4 total playoff teams and still won 12 games overall. I think we were the best that year but unfortunately we literally fumbled away a chance at the SB in Denver. the first season I can vividly remember watching games was 1981 so I was spoiled early. 4 of the first 6 years I was watching we made the playoffs then we had the 1987-1996 stretch which was awful but since then we have been pretty damn good though it would be nice if we could actually make a SB once.
Sorry Cman have to disagree with you as there is NOTHING aligned in the stars that says we have to win a SB some day. You sound like a guy at a BJ table in Vegas who is constantly losing & keeps saying to himself that my luck HAS to change so you keep pouring good money after bad & U keep losing & losing & losing. Until the NYJs get quality ball players, a quality coach & a quality owner instead of the sad sack owner we now have they will keep losing & losing & losing no matter if U choose to believe that or not. Heck we have now lost 44 straight years so what is to stop us for losing another 50 straight years based on the owner & FO we now have? Also remember the next owner of the NYJs is Woody son so U better pray his genes comes from trophy mom rather then sad sack dad :sad:
That may be true Champ, but I'm gonna hope for the best, then plan for the worst. 45 years is a lifetime. Longer that most that post on this board. I have to think the Jets will at some point finally get it right and even if they don't win, at least PLAY in a SB before its all said and done for me. I'm about as far from a pompom waver as you can get, but I'm not a dreamkiller either. I won't rag on a optimist as long as they don't rag on me. I would suggest that you let time prove who's right and wrong instead of always arguing the future with others. JMHO..
Thanks for the suggestion but this board I thought was to express ur opinions of the NYJs good or bad which is all I am doing. IMHO there is no way the NYJs will win the SB in my lifetime if my estimate is correct. My son estimate is worse then mine because he feels that they will NEVER win a SB in his lifetime & he is only 42 so that must tell U & every one on this board who reads this how hapless the NYJ organization is right now & has been for the last 44 years :sad:
Wrong Hess was a 25%b owner & WAS NOT EVEN present in Miami when the NYJs won the SB. As a suggestion U should bulk on on NYJ history before posting things that occurred before U were even born :sad:
You are half right. When the Jets won the SB Hess was the owner. He became the owner of record in 68. I was born in the early 50's and like you saw the Jets win a SB. It wasn't Hess's fault that Dick Steinberg got cancer and Walt Michaels was an alcoholic.
Nope U R incorrect in 1968 the owners were Townsend 25% Wberlin 25% Martin 25% Hess 25% Wberlin was ejected in 69 when at that point Hess bought his 25% making Hess majority owner Check out a book called the Gang Green So if you born in the early 50s that would make U late teens So I guess from your post U put the entire blame of losing the last 44 straight years on Steinber dying & Michaels being a drunk. If I am correct then you do not dig enough into the NYJs IMHO :sad:
it was his fault he fired Michaels and hired Steinberg. We were still terrible in the Steinberg years before he was diagnosed w/ cancer.
Yeah, I became a fan in '71 and don't remember SB3. I might have been old enough to, but my dad wasn't a huge sports nut and my older brother tells me we were out doing something that day. (go figure) I was the pioneer Jets fan of the family. My First vivid memory of watching a Jets game on TV was that great Namath Unitas shoot-out in Baltimore. That was earliest memory I have of anticipating a game and watching the whole thing. Maybe it stands out more to me since it was a classic. First SB I remember watching closely on TV was SB5, Colts/ Cowboys. I've been going to the home games since the end of '78 so it's been 35 years for me. I'll be there Sunday. Still, I'm not "fed-up" or "pissed-off". I'm not a fan of Woody, but I believe the organization has a drive to win. If the only thing to make you happy as a fan is winning a Super Bowl, then you ought to give it up. Way more disappointment than ecstasy. Also, the older I get, the less it means to me. I see the quality of the game deteriorating, and the Super Bowl becoming less important. Really, I do. Since parity has taken hold, and the likelihood of repeating a champion becomes less and less, somehow it's not the "end all be all" it once was. I remember looking forward to watching the pro bowl. Who else remembers the AFC and NFC helmets they used to wear? What an absolute joke that became. I'm beginning to view the Super Bowl as a gimmicky money ploy, if you can believe it. Maybe its because I live 3 miles from MetLife and am starting to experience Super Bowl fever, or flu. What I still really want are a few home playoff games. I want a superb regular season record one of these years. I want a home AFC Championship game. That would still mean a lot to me. When they win that, I'm selling my SB tickets so someone else to allow the NFL and their prostitutes to drain the wealth from them, and not me.
we are 10 years apart, my first year 1981 and first SB I can remember watching was SB XV:grin: I remember walking into that Cincy game week 17 of '09 and feeling the electricity in the Stadium 30-40 mins before the game and thinking to myself how badly I wanted a home game in the AFC Championship- we almost got it if bal would have upset Indy in the div rd. Some day.
Werblin, who ran the team took the buyout in 68. I blame the Jets losing on the merger. Prior to the merger the Jets had a very aggressive management team that had to fight for their survival in a highly competitive market. After the merger the Jets were another team were winning didn't matter one way or another to ownership that was focused elsewhere. Once the league was merged and Werblin was out the Jets didn't need to win to survive.
No because I have a NYDNs pix of him & JWN in the NYJ L/room after SB 3 which was 01/12/69. Wberlin was the de facto honcho & got bought out cause Hess was pissed it him for signing JWN without telling dear old Leon he was going to do it. Wberlin also signed a Notre Dame QB Haurte who turned into a hige flop the same year he signed JWN :sad:
whether you had his picture or not he was bought out in 1968. http://news.google.com/newspapers?n...DUdAAAAIBAJ&sjid=rqUEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6549,6747674
Champ I'm lovin' this thread and I think after 45 years of failure, we have a right to be disgusted and look with disdain whatever small gains we did have, especially when you look at what the Giants (who I despise passionately) did over the last 30 years. I"m still going to be hopeful though:grin: One thing, I haven't checked, but I think you got the ownership chain wrong Werblin bought team w/ 4 partners in 1964 Phil Iselin, Townsend Martin, Donald Lillis & Leon Hess IIRC the partners forced Werblin out before the '67 season Donald Lillis became the head man of the remaining four. He died shortly before the '68 season. Phil Iselin then became the front man. Hess bought Iselin's share when he died and by the early 80s, I believe he bought everyone else out as well. So, he technically was an owner for SBIII
