The Saints had McCallister. Yes injured, but a back in the prime of his career whos recovery was going well and a large contract to boot. The Saints didn't know they were getting Bush until the Texans aka dumbest franchise in pro sports, passed on him for a guy that never played to his potential and never will. How locked in could they have been. These 2 are gonna have to share carries, they will try to shop Duece next year but his contract is not gonna be attractive. Dont get me wrong, the Saints were smart to take him, he will be the franchise for at least 4-5 years. WHY THE USELESS THREAD? Frustration ... now we need an F-ing running back. And to twist the dagger a little bit Curtis says he told the FO to go after a RB in the Draft. Always a day late and a dollar short. Everyone is so concerned about giving away the "family silver" for 1 player ...Go look at the draft picks ... A "Center" in the 1st round and TWO incredulous reachs in the first 3 rounds ... Schlegel and that saftey from Michigan... they may not even make the team next year. Hey Jets FO I have some land in Somolia I want to sell you, its good value.
Im not going to get into the hypothetical deals that could have been made. Obviously we would have had to give up the 2 #1's and some variation of other picks. To act like you know what the exact breakdown would have been well, thats just silly. I like the way you stuck Clemens in there since we all think hes the next Montana. BTW he was also considered a reach in the draft. There were 3-4 QBs all grouped together and he was the 1st one taken. Thank God for the JAWS endorsement or we would have gotten blasted for the reach. Im almost done whinning, good therapy.
You're not gonna get into the hypothetical deals that could have been made yet you start a thread during training camp saying the Jets should not have PASSED on Bush.. You're right I have no idea what kind of package it would have taken to get Bush which is exactly the reason this thread is a complete joke. The fact that you bring it up after one somewhat shining moment in the PRESEASON makes it that much worse..
Consumer Warning: This thread is useless. This is a blog. Noone here has any actual say within the Jets organization. I am only expressing my opinion. Feel free to go over the less discussed threads like Pennys shoulder or who should play right tackle. Coulda Woulda Shoulda. Lots of us wanted him and that 1 preseason run combined with the fact that we dont have a starting running back has some of us pretty teed off. Not saying its completely rational but its par for the course for Jet fans. Name the last Jets superstar. Be aware I do not consider C-Mart a superstar, very good, consistent and well rounded but not a superstar. They dont come around often.
Personally, I think we should have traded all of our picks, all next year's picks, the training toom, the infamous bus, and thrown in an oz of pot for Reggie. In fact we could have just traded the whole damn team and let Reggie go out there as the team and hoped for the best. Anyone ever remember Curtis or Lamont running huge plays like that? Of course we have. We didn't take reggie, get over it. There were so many gaping holes to fill first. Here's a great thought.. Lets forget about the OL and get a back that gets killed, and no yards all year long because we bet the farm on him. At the same time, lets abandon the "team first" mentality and go get a ME-ME guy. We can get Randy Moss, TO, and reggie and we can watch them grapple for air time.
Cmart was the last Jets superstar.. I love how Bush is a superstar yet Cmart is not. Can we please just see him play ONE NFL game before we declare him a superstar..
The guy already admitting that he was just venting....there's no point trying to have a rational discussion with someone who is still coming to terms with the fact that we will *not* be a great team this year.....
damn dude, it was one run on the titans defens....not exactly top of the line doesnt mean he is already the best ever, and this is like saying we should have traded up for carson palmer yes, we could have , but was it a good move at the time, no i would have been so pissed if we traded our first round picks for reggie, how the hell would he run with out a line???
You can thank the Fn Raiders for stealing Bush from the Jets. When they started Rockmonenauf at QB they HANDED us a late season win right when we were doing great in the Bush race. If we had lost that game like we were supposed to, CM and Bush would be roomates right now at training camp.
You're not going to get into hypothetical deals? How does that make any sense? We did not pass up Reggie Bush, Houston did. If we wanted to blow them away with an offer, sure, we might have been able to get Bush. But for you to say you're not going to get any hypothetical deals and say it is silly if you do is funny and hypocritical in itself. To get Bush, we would have HAD to make a trade. I wiill repeat that. To get Reggie Bush, thew New York Jets would have HAD to trade up. That makes it not a hypothetical deal. They clearly wanted more than 2 1sts and a 3rd rounder. And why wouldn't he stick Clemens in there? We wouldn't have gotten him if we traded up. We would have traded at least the rights to Mangold, Brick, and Clemens all for Bush.
my point is that it is over, wasnt going to happen and isnt going to happen wise words: The past is the past and the future is the future
Yes, with Mawae leaving Center was a glaring need. More so than RB, IMO. Or would you be ok with Teague being the starting center for the next ten years? Mangold was the best Center prospect, arguably the best in the past few years. That safety guy from Michigan? What kind of Jet fan are you? Smith has been all over the camp reviews, and he is making some noise. And yet you don't even know his name? How do you expect anyone to take you seriously? Are you friggin kidding? Schlegel and Smith might not even make the team next year? I have nothing to say to that, it speaks for itself. I just wanted to point out the obsurdity of that comment. I for one would have been pissed with any deal to get Bush. I was damn happy when the Jets got the Gold Brick. I don't care how many 44 preseason runs he makes. All lasting championship teams are built from the line out. The Jets O-Line was shit. If something wasn't done, they would have gone through another 4 QBs, and Bush would have spent the entire season on his back underneath 300lb NTs (Although he might enjoy that sort of thing, you never know, not that there is anything wrong with that, lol). Building a team by getting stars first never works. Don't believe me, ask a Lions fan.
Read before you react Firstly, NONE of us know what went on with the FO before the draft regarding Reggie Bush and a possible trade up. Not one of us on this board can say exactly what the Jets would have had to give up. As I said before, one must at least include the 2 1st rounders. Beyond that YOU HAVE NO IDEA! If you just didn't want the deal, then man up and say what you mean. IMO we had the pieces to make it happen. Everyone's evaluation of the FO moves on this board is based purely on speculation unless your not telling us something Tanny. As a Jets fan we all know that history seems to repeat itself around here. Go look at the Jets drafts of past and FO of the past. Tony Stargell, Alex Gordon Reggie Rembert. They were the Schlegels of the past. The FO is pumping stardust up your butt. Schlegel is a future journeman adding depth on someone elses roster in 2 years before he'll be selling cars somewhere. Why do I say this? He was a reach for a reason...Not fast in a fast league. Id say he could be a great ST ace but once again NOT FAST. Maybe he will have the heart and character of Wayne but wayne had more speed than ever given credit for. As for the Safety from Michigan, whats his name. Why was he considered a reach? See above. I like the whole Mangini guy concept, but people tend to downplay the Pats talent level. Bill and Bill were never known for "reaching" in the draft. They try to make Teddy Brusci sound like he was waynes roommate at Hofstra, he was a excellent Div 1 player and was drafted as a Value at the time, not a reach. Add Schlegel to the rest of the failed experiments. 50 year old somoan nose tackles, Bryan Thomas, Doug Jolley. Call me crazy but I'll take my chances being the next Lions with Bush over the Same Ol' Jets with the next roster of Tony Stargells.
Eric Smith has looked good for us so far according to Training Camp reviews. Schlegal also is making a name for himself, and hopefully you can wait until an actual regular season game before you crucify our rookies. You need to take the blinders off and see that the Current FO and CS are doing everything in there power to build a consistent, winning organization. No one player was going to make this season a blockbuster, and lets say reggie bush was on our team running behind a horrible oline vs. TAMPA BAYS defense. I wonder how many folks would be calling for his head now and questioning trading away our future for one back. I was keeping my fingers crossed for Reggie during the draft, but I still wouldn't do a eli manning type deal for him. I'm not ready to put him in the HOF just yet, and honestly Maroney was the best RB so far from the rookie class, but since its the infamous Reggie Bush making one cutback run on the defensive powerhouse titans then people like you have to push the panic button. I won't call you crazy, but please feel free to jump on the New Orleans bandwagon after one fantastic run.....against the titans.
