TGG 7 Round Mock Discussion Thread

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  1. JohnnyThaJet

    JohnnyThaJet Active Member

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    Ya did great Harpua, another successful year. Thanks for being on board!
     
  2. CleveSteve

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  3. JohnnyThaJet

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    Jetfanmack haz chilens?

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    One thing I learned in this draft: Baltimore has a TON of draft picks. And they'll have more next year with comp picks.
     
  5. JohnnyThaJet

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    A bunch of back to back picks as well. They're lower round choices but one is bound to be a decent player.
     
  6. Jetfanmack

    Jetfanmack haz chilens?

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    Laxin, I changed my last pick you got from my list. Didn't realize you'd go by my list, and I didn't realize Baltimore had yet another pick. Didn't want to double up on DTs there.
     
  7. jilozzo

    jilozzo Well-Known Member

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    i am here folks gonna get that pick up in a few. sorry.
     
  8. CleveSteve

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    Updated Depth Chart for Kansas City after all their picks:

    Code:
    QB	Alex Smith	Chase Daniel	Ricky Stanzi		
    RB	Jamaal Charles	Cyrus Gray	Shaun Draughn		
    RB3	Dexter McCluster				
    WR	Dwayne Bowe	Jonathan Baldwin	Terrance Copper	Devon Wylie	Junior Hemingway
    WR	[COLOR="Red"][I]Robert Woods[/I][/COLOR]	Donnie Avery	Mardy Gilyard	Jamar Newsome	Josh Bellamy
    TE	Anthony Fasano	Tony Moeaki			
    LT	Brandon Albert	Jeff Allen			
    OG	Geoff Schwartz				
    C	Rodney Hudson	Brian Mattison	Thomas Gafford		
    OG	[COLOR="red"][I]Lamar Mady[/I][/COLOR]	John Asamoah	Ryan Durand		
    RT	[COLOR="red"][I]Jordan Mills[/I][/COLOR]	Donald Stephenson	Steven Baker		
    FB	Nate Eachus				
    					
    5T	Mike DeVito	Allen Bailey			
    NT	[COLOR="red"][I]Montori Hughes[/I][/COLOR]	Dontari Poe	Jerrell Powe	Anthony Toribio	
    5T	[COLOR="red"][I]Star Lotulelei[/I][/COLOR]	Tyson Jackson	Daniel Muir		
    OLB	Justin Houston				
    ILB	[COLOR="red"][I]Taylor Reed[/I][/COLOR]	Cory Greenwood	Edgar Jones		
    ILB	Derrick Johnson	Ryan D'Imperio	Chad Kilgore		
    OLB	Tamba Hali	[I][COLOR="Red"]Brandon Sharpe[/COLOR][/I]			
    CB	Brandon Flowers	Dunta Robinson	Jalil Brown	De'Quan Menzie	
    CB	Sean Smith	Javier Arenas	Neiko Thorpe		
    FS	Kendrick Lewis	[COLOR="red"][I]Rontez Miles[/I][/COLOR]	Tysyn Hartman		
    SS	Eric Berry	Hussain Abdullah	Jose Gumbs		
    					
    K	Ryan Succop				
    P	Dustin Colquitt				
    
    • This is a really strong OL and DL. Lamar Mady is basically the same guy as Chance Warmack with a little more agility. He just might not be as mean.
    • Adding Robert Woods to Bowe and pushing Avery to 3rd WR makes for a solid corps that was previously poor IMO.
    • Reed is a multi-skill ILB with four years experience in a 3-4. He can rush the passer well and has gotten better in coverage. He's not as big as you often see in that spot (240#) but I think with Hughes and Star in front of him they have that luxury and would get better production from the spot with a talented player like this over a thumper like Nico Johnson.
    • I like Rontez Miles a lot and he'd push Lewis to start as a rookie I think. I have him as a backup initially since he'll be seeing a bigger jump in competition than most rookies and should be allowed to get his feet wet first.
    • Still a couple OLB prospects I like available in our draft... I'd like to have one more for rotation, but Brandon Sharpe is one of my favorites in the whole draft.
     
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  9. JohnnyThaJet

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    I overslept. I have the Jags pick.
     
  10. CleveSteve

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    Must be nice... See if you had a baby waking you up in the middle of the night you could make picks like I did at 2:30 local time lol.
     
  11. JohnnyThaJet

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    hahaha, I guess its a perk of being a college student. Although, I'm up until 4 every night working on all kinds of different things.
     
  12. CleveSteve

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    And for the Raiders...

    Code:
    QB	Matt Flynn	Seneca Wallace	Terrelle Pryor		
    RB	Darren McFadden	Rashad Jennings	Taiwan Jones		
    RB3					
    WRf	Denarius Moore	Juron Criner			
    WRp	Rod Streater	Tray Session			
    WRs	Jacoby Ford	Isaiah Williams			
    TE	David Ausberry	Richard Gordon	Mickey Shuler		
    LT	Jared Veldheer	Alex Barron			
    OG	Tony Bergstrom	Jason Foster			
    C	Stefen Wisniewski	Jason Slowey			
    OG	Lucas Nix	Mike Brisiel			
    RT	Khalif Barnes	Willie Smith			
    FB	Marcel Reece	Jamize Olawale	John Hoese		
    					
    LE	Andre Carter	Lamarr Houston	Jack Crawford		
    NT	[COLOR="Gray"][I]Chris Jones[/I][/COLOR]	Pat Sims	Christo Bilukidi	Johnny Jones	
    UT	[COLOR="gray"][I]Joe Vellano[/I][/COLOR]	Vance Walker	Brandon Bair		
    RE	[COLOR="gray"][I]John Simon[/I][/COLOR]	[COLOR="gray"][I]Devin Taylor[/I][/COLOR]	Jason Hunter		
    SLB	Nick Roach	Kevin Burnett			
    MLB	[COLOR="gray"][I]Jordan Campbell[/I][/COLOR]	Jerrell Harris	Travis Goethel		
    WLB	Miles Burris	Kaluka Maiava	Keenan Clayton	Mario Kurn	
    CB	[COLOR="gray"][I]Dee Milliner[/I][/COLOR]	Mike Jenkins	Chimdi Chekwa	Joselio Hanson	Corey Nelms
    CB	Tracy Porter	Phillip Adams	Coye Francies	Akwasi Owusu-Ansah	Reggie Smith
    FS	[I][COLOR="gray"]Phillip Thomas[/COLOR][/I]				
    SS	Tyvon Branch		

    • Wish I had one more pick for a RT.
    • Though I definitely saw the DL as a bigger need for OAK than the secondary, I liked the depth of the DL in a 4-3 more than of the back end of the defense in this draft. Adding a true #1 corner and a ballhawk FS improves this group a ton IMO.
    • Starting Devin Taylor off as a pass-rush specialist until he's strong enough to man the left side. Andre Carter is in on a one-year stopgap contract which would allow Taylor to hit the weights. Having high-effort guys like Jones, Vellano, and Simon and a gym rat like Campbell should push Taylor to get ready to play.
    • This defense is going to really get after the passer inside and out. I think they'd be a ton better with this squad. Chris Jones had more sacks than any other DT the past two years in college football (FBS only.) Joe Vellano put up better numbers than Sylvester Williams in the same conference, but he did it from both the 4-3 (2010, 2011) and the 3-4 as a DE (2012.) He was a second-team All-American in 2011 at DT.
    • Jordan Campbell is an extremely talented player who ran afoul of Lane Kiffin at USC and transferred out when Jarvis Jones did. He's a do-everything LB with a tremendous size/speed combo and would add some leadership/confidence to the middle of their D, which is kind of without an identity right now it seems.
     
  13. TheCoolerGlennFoley

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    Garrett Gilkey getting drafted twice in a row is impressive. Probably should've gone higher.
     
  14. BakerMaker

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    A punter finally goes lol

    Love Kluwe's personality but he's a meh punter and Locke could be their new punter for years to come.
     
  15. JohnnyThaJet

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    Should've gone higher? So he should have been drafted three times?
     
  16. JohnnyThaJet

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    Not sure if MeanDean will be here for his pick. Anyone want to make it? I can't since I have the Jets next.
     
  17. WW85

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    I can't Philly is with in 5.
     
  18. CleveSteve

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    I have a suggestion for Seattle... they have Brady Quinn as their backup QB, right? There's a player i think would fit in well.
     
  19. JohnnyThaJet

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    If you've got it, post the pick my friend. And yes, Quinn is the backup.
     
  20. CleveSteve

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    Pick is up:

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/colby-cameron?id=2540244

    OVERVIEW
    Colby’s brother, Jordan, played tight end at the University of Southern California, and currently plays for the Cleveland Browns. Colby started out his career at Louisiana Tech as a redshirt in 2008. In 2009, he saw some limited action, participating in five games, and completing 14 of 26 passes for 142 yards. The following season, Cameron completed 54 of his 91 attempts for 461 yards and one touchdown to five interceptions. Cameron played in seven games in 2011, and logged six starts. He completed 97 of 172 passes for 11 touchdowns, two interceptions, and 1,403 yards.


    Cameron had by far his best season in 2012. He won the Sammy Baugh Award (which goes to college football’s top passer), was named first-team All-WAC, and won the WAC Offensive Player of the Year Award. Cameron set the NCAA record for most passes thrown in a season without an interception in a season (428) and in a career (444). He finished the year completing 359 of his 522 pass attempts (68.8%) for 4,174 yards, 31 touchdowns, and just five interceptions. He also added four rushing touchdowns.

    ANALYSIS
    STRENGTHS Great efficiency and production. Possesses some athletic ability. Smart, doesn't make many mistakes. Team leader. Quick release, and shows good anticipation. Throws a tight spiral, and has some surprising velocity on outside and intermediate patterns. Has good touch when dropping the deep ball in the bucket.

    WEAKNESSES Lacks prototypical size for the position. Arm strength is lacking. Will struggle to fit the ball into tight windows or to drive the ball downfield. Many of his reads were pre-determined and included easy completions. Only one full season of great production.

    NFL COMPARISON Case Keenum

    BOTTOM LINE Cameron won the Sammy Baugh award in 2012, which is awarded to college football's top passer. Cameron doesn't make mistakes with the football, and has a nice, quick release. However, he lacks the physical tools to ever be a starting caliber quarterback at the next level.

    If you're a backup, especially if you're a backup to a guy who is expected to be a good QB for a really long time, it's more important that you can come in and play with little/no practice snaps, be smart, and not turn the ball over than be able to fire passes all over the place. Cameron has good accuracy, is known to be smart, and I think has better arm strength than he is generally given credit for.
     
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