comeon you guys cant be serious. if we are moving up to number 1 we are taking bush no matter what, listen the jets are rebuilding it doesnt take one year we dont need to get our franchise QB this season, if you have the chance to get a player that most people are saying is the best prospect in forever then you just take him and then build around that. We could get a decent verteran just for this season, and next year worry about drafting a QB because, trust me we will still be in the top 5 next years draft as well where there are other solid QB's like quinn, stanton, palmer, or maybe even leak. but regardless you have to take Bush and then work around that and build a decent Oline throughout the rest of the draft.
i would be very careful about leinhart for 2 reasons..... 1. - he is a bit standoff-ish and i am not sure if he will rub everyone the right way - especially in NY 2. southpaw - regardless of what stadium we end up in its no secret that the weather is a concern here. the ball can tend to "sail" with a lefty - we saw it with esiason and you will see it with leinhart - i am not sure he has the strength to minimize it or not..... they may be minor things but can potentially be devastating to a franchise that just cannot miss in april jil
Uh, and why is that? You're telling me because the ball rotates the opposite way it's going to sail more? I have a really hard time buying that.
i am not selling it to you or anyone - it is an observation that is shared by several people over the years.....i do not know if there is a scientific explanation or what but that is the reputation for lefties in windy bad weather conditions. is it enough to "pass" on leinhart - of course not but it is something that needs to be considered after he is on your team. like i posted - it may be a minor thing that will never be apparent if his arm is strong enough. jil
This makes alot of sense for Houston. Especially trading with us for the 4th. And don't be surprised if they end up with Reggie Bush anyway. The Saints will surely draft Young as they already have alot invested in McAllister and obviously no QB at the moment. And to a lesser degree the same could be said for the Titans who have Brown and a very shaky QB situation, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if they pass on Bush to go with Cutler. For the Jets it's pretty simple. If you have a legitimate shot to go after the top rated player on your board, no question you take that opportunity. Forget about all of the other holes on your team, forget about the signing money. Nothing can turn a franchise around faster than a franchise QB.
No one knows what Penningtons health would be unless he completed a season where he did well without injuries. Remember, he was ready last year, then went down again for the season. It's over for him if your looking to rebuild a franchise.
Pennington should have never started the 2005 season for us. He was not healed all the way and clearly suffered some kind of setback in the pre-season which was never reported or he sweet talked Herm into letting him start. It would have been controversial, but Fiedler should have started the season for us. That's why you pay a coach the big bucks. Decisions they make, may not be popular, but they often are right.
That's dumb. Steve Young played in SF and that's more windy then where the Jets play. And Ken Stabler played in the wind as well. Don't remember those guys passes sailing all that much. Yeah, let's not draft a guy because he's a lefty and his passes will sail. Absurd.
Let me see. And who told you he was not healed all the way? Oh, that's right, you much have been one of his doctors.
Pennington's passes didn't sail or get "blown away by the wind" at all late in 2002 when it's cold in the Meadowlands and Foxboro. He put up a great game in Foxboro, a great game against Green Bay to get in, then dismantled Indy... The wind bullshit only really affects kickers...I laugh when I hear about it for QB's, gimmie a break.
At work So I do not have time to research right now....but.....I do not recall Parcells or Belichek traing away picks. Think over the years they have been the type to stockpile picks...Tannenbuam is from the same tree...and the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I say stay at #4 and try and get picks for Abe. Realistically a high #2 (Texans anyone) OR maybe a couple of 3's. I really like the Texans #2 for Abe, not sure why they would do it though....We would have three of the top 35 picks...Nice...Sort of what Parcells did with the Keyshawn trade?????
This basically happens every season before the draft. Pure rumors.... If you were the Texans, would you seriously pass on Bush just to add an extra pick???.... Players like Bush don't grow on trees, and he's an immediate impact player. I'd be very shocked to see the Texans, and HC G. Kubiak to pass on this incredible opportunity. Especially considering this is his first season as HC.... Not to mention he's coming from Denver. One of the NFL's most consistant running teams when Kubiak was the OC.... The Jets will take D'Brick if they're wise. You need to start protecting you QB's for a change, and this kid is a monster..... Later...
What if you could trade down to 3 or 4 and were still be able to get Bush, which is very likely. It makes all the sense in the world for Houston to trade down and they probably will.
No one told me anything. I think anyone watching early in the year saw that Pennington was not himself. Personally, I do not see how we can trade up to #1, draft a QB, and be able to sign him. Not that Reggie Bush would be cheap, but he would be less expensive than a QB. I still do not see us trading up. Why are you so grouchy today?
If it's somehow possible to trade down from #1 overall pick, and yet still have the #1 overall pick after trading down, then sure it's possible. LOL!!!!!!!!!..... When hell freezes over.... PHINZ RULE!!!
And Pennington not being himself was due to rust, a new playbook, too much defensive pressure, and poor mechanics. It had nothing to do with his arm. He looked the same way he always looked except his passes were less accurate.
if we take leinart at 1 especially trading abraham to do so, ionno what id do. buy a new tv is something i know id have to do tho
