You draft a 2nd round QB to possibly compete for but not to start. Marty was not a failed fiduciary duty as he was hired 4 months prior to Geno getting drafted. The failure occurred when they drafted Geno for they did not recognizes he was a poor fit. The schematic fit of the WCO for Sanchez can't be debated since as I stated earlier it was the offense that made him a top college recruit and first round pick. Even your specific arguments about why Sanchez was a poor fit are inaccurate. Sanchez lacks many characteristics of a quality QB but timing and footwork, key traits for success in the WCO, aren't two of them. I agree that Sanchez lacks natural accuracy but the WCO is built to improve the accuracy. Vick, a widely inaccurate career sub 55 CMP% QB, completed over 60% of his passes while running the WCO under MM. McNabb is another naturally inaccurate passer that this offense made to look more accurate. Of course the more accurate you are the better your CMP% would be in the WCO but it's fair to say the WCO offense adds % points to whatever your average is. I have no idea what Foles, Kelly's offense, elevation of weapons or farming tools have to do with the discussion we are having. I'm pretty sure at the time the Jets thought all their personnel decision would work out; that's why those decision makers lost their respective jobs. Again the Jets hired Marty BEFORE THEY DRAFTED GENO!!! Even if you believe, like many, that no offense would good fit for Sanchez because he sucks, I think it's logical to assume the offense he ran in high school then college with a great amount of success would the closest chance of finding that good fit.
Its been reported they up the offer t.. various sources. Fitz is mediocre at best and makes bad decisions that his wr and shouldn't be pa what viable options are you referring to? Cause I really do not see any... geno please, petty is not ready, now what?
Yeah they upped it from 7mil to 8-9. They are penny pinching when they dont have to. Its more damage to the team to not have Fitz in the fold. You say he's average , I'll agree. But Hoyer isnt even that. Geno is worse and Petty is a question mark. The only other viable option there would be is drafting a QB in the 1st or 2nd round and having a "competition". Thats why I stated before if its only Hoyer, Geno and Petty in the fold during training camp then we're in big BIG trouble. At the very least a rookie would provide some hope and possible upside. But Im still 90 percent sure Fitz will be our starter next year. Threads like this that suggest we sign horrible QB's for less money are just time killers until the inevitable happens. I doubt anyone that would prefer Hoyer at 4 mil a year over Fitz at 12 , would be happy we saved that money when we're 3-8 in November next season and ready to see what Petty can do.
People seem to forget that Genos top targets in his 2 years included: 1. Eric Decker 2. Jeremy Kerley 3. Jeff Cumberland 4. Jace Amaro 5. David Nelson 6. Chaz Schillens 7. Clyde Gates 8. TJ Graham 9. Stephen Hill 10. Greg Salas Outside of Decker and maybe Amaro all of these guys are scrap heap level talent. I'm sure Hoyer or Fitz would have thrived. Can't wait to hear how Geno haters respond to this.
Barely worth my time to even reply to you but I like that you offer nothing of substance to argue my points. And I'm the moron? Funny stuff, guy.
You overrate Ryan Fitzpatrick. The whole veteran roster got a year older.. as did your boy Fitzy. You would like to dump franchise money on Fitz so that we can see what happens this year? You do realize most of our vet contracts have an option after this year? We are not going to the Super Bowl with Fitz so what's the point of paying him a dollar past 7M? We can cut bait on several overdue contracts and have enough room to sure up other parts of the team. Not spend on 2 years max of mediocre. Good thing Mac seems to have a similar train of thought. Last year we saw fitzpatrick's best season dwindle away with the jets playoff hopes. If you think he's going to replicate any sort of succeeds, I'd have to say you're delusional. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
10 mil a year for a QB is franchise money? One coming off a career year? Umm no its called a bargain. If we arent going to the Superbowl with Fitz whats the point of even watching next season? Why not trade Revis and Marshall right now while eating half their contracts "just because we arent going to the Superbowl"? If every fan had your logic there would be no NFL And another idiot basing a 30 TD , 4000 passing yard , 10 win season off of one game where the whole team did show up? And because of that you want Brian Hoyer? HAHA. I rather be "delusional" than have that idiotic mindset.
Yes I have, quite a bit. I also saw Fitz play like garbage for both Buffalo and Houston before he was in our offense. He lost his starter's job in both places, and almost had a one to one touchdown to turnover ratio in a much larger sample of games than Hoyer's.. For me, there isn't that much of a difference between them. Factor in age and cost, and Hoyer becomes just as good of an option.
No one can say with certainty what Hoyer might do in our offense. Just as no one knew that Fitz would play that well last year, at least until the Buffalo game. Fitzpatrick wasn't even our starter until I.K. clocked Geno. What I do know is that if Fitz is asking for more than what our GM deems him worth; I'd rather sign Hoyer than overpay a different placeholder who isn't taking us to the Super Bowl anyway, until Petty, or another QB we draft this offseason, are ready to be our starter.
Revis and Marshall have both been in the elite category for their entire careers and deserve the money they are getting (though I do think Revis is overpaid). Fitzpatrick wants significantly more money than he is worth. His numbers were at or below league average aside from his inflated td #, which one could argue is more a product of scheme and surrounding cast. This 10 mil per year figure? You pulling that out of your ass? What makes you think he will accept that? No other team wants him, so it's accept Mac's fair offer or gtfo. I'm not basing Fitz's season off of one game or suggesting we sign Hoyer. Nice use of a straw man, though. Understandable since your arguments and reasoning are dog shit. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
What's the median salary? Cause I can understand paying high dollar for those 5 outliers at the top. I'm not sure if you think Fitz is worth 19M, but I can assure you, he's not Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
As the old saying goes. It's worth what someone is willing to pay. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I only heard it second handed but didn't somebody say the jets won't sign any qb until after the graft and if that's the case I would guess they hope to get lynch.
