Terry Boobway strikes again

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  1. stinkyB

    stinkyB 2009 Best Avatar Award Winner

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    I think Bradway SUCKED, but this is wrong. The J. ETS gave him an decent offer, but he chose to test his wares via freeagency. After his market value wasn't as high as his perceived self worth, he signed with the Steelers for LESS than what the JETS offered :shit:

    Some of those drafts on the other hand :mad:
     
  2. Duk Dodgers

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    Yeah that was the pits for sure.

    Still, i agree with those saying he wasn't that bad nor that good. I actually place more blame on woody for hiring herm, now we'll never now how good our team could've been.

    Bradway did have some problems, sigining old players to long contracts, to easy on trades...etc, but you can't deny he has brought in some talent since being GM. Once we get some playmakers on Offense we should be back on our feet !! Surely not a doormat (except for this year).
     
  3. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    Where Bradway blew it. The Jets were in cap hell but they were also primed for a SB run in 01. Bringing in Herm and Hackett while perfect for Chad was a dumb move for Vinny. Herm insisting that Fat Teddy run the cover 2 and Vinny trying to run the WCO killed the team in year 1. In year 2 Chad should have been named the starter in training camp. Another blown opportunity. It was a series of blunders from that point on with personal and coaching that ultuimately did this team in.
     
  4. jilozzo

    jilozzo Well-Known Member

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    funny how things work - if it wasn't for the expansion draft in 2001 - with the texnas taking glenn, coleman and young - the jets may not have been able to keep chrebet and martin and may have actually improved the cap status a bit quicker.

    oh the hindsight...

    jil
     
  5. JetsIn2004

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    1) The Jolley deal was not seen as bad at the time. It did prove to be bad.
    2) This was a bad move, we all know that. The Jets saw McGraw as a Reed like player. Obviously, they were wrong
    3) See 2
    4) If the Jets did not extend Martin, they would have struggled to field a team in 2002... so no division title, no anything
    5) Same with Chrebet
    6) Everyone was pumped to deal Moss for Coles. You can't fault them for not paying Thomas what the Skins did, nor can you fault them for the other guys, especially Jordan.
    7) Comp picks were not solely gone because of Lance LEgree. NOONE, and I mean NOONE, knows the comp pick formula except the NFL. Don't believe everything you read.
    8) Coles "debacle" was a BRILLIANT move. They weren't going to sign Coles. They got a 1st out of the deal. They did NOT want to sign him to the high tender and then lose him for nothing the next season. Now what they did witht he pick was not great, but the move to get it was.
    9) Morton - you are really this upset over a kick returner they cut 2 yrs later?
    10) This wasn't a good pick.

    Look, you can't solely blame Bradway if you want to blame anyone for all of these things. Tannenbaum had his hands around some if not all of this stuff too, especially the signings. However, I think most of your complaints are typical fan overraction. Some are good, some are not thought through very well.
     
  6. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Regardless of getting rid of Jolley the Jolley trade was a VERY GOOD one. We didn't just give up a 1st rounder for him, we switched 20 spots and we got the 2 guys we wanted in Nugent and Miller AND also acquired Kerry Rhodes w/ another pick. That's 3 current/future starters. It was a very good move.

    2. You can look back on every draft and say we should have taken this player over that player. It happens.

    3. McGraw was a good player when healthy but unfortunately he was never healthy.

    4. If BP didn't leave the cap in such poor shape this move never would have ben necessary and it's not like we didn't get production out of him after the restructuring as he did win a rushig title and helpd us win a division and get to the div rd twice.

    5. this I agree w/. Chrebet was a good #2 or #3 WR but we paid him and didn't have money for Coles, if we could go back I wouldn't do that and would have used that money to lock up Coles.

    6. Not one of those losses was a huge deal. Thomas was overpaid and we repalced him well w/ Kendall, Moss broke out but Coles overall has been better, Jordan still ahsn't proven he's anything more than a quality backup and Mckenzie was a) getting way too much money to play RT and b) was terrible last year.

    7. The White signing was poor b/c he was paid alot more than he should have been, the Legree deal was a low risk thing and not a big deal.

    8. The skins vastly overpaid for him, we wound up making the div rd of the playoffs again a year later. we couldn't pay him that money. At the time RFA's didn't move but the skins overpaid, as usual, and started a new trend.

    9. He did the wrong ting there in matching the offer but it worked out in our favor as we never missed Morton and he was another overpaid redskin.

    10. Dewyane played a pro bowl level in '04 and was a key to our top 5 D. If his medical condition won't allow him to play at that level again then it was a mistake but only 2-3 of yuor list were actually big mistakles and every Gm has those.
     
  7. tomdeb

    tomdeb Well-Known Member

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    You make a few good points, but I can't agree on the Martin and Chrebet extensions. Signing a 29 year old back and 29 year old WR to huge LONG TERM deals with large bonuses thru 08 and 09 is bad business. Even ny junc admits Chrebet's deal was unwise. However, IMO you really lost credibility by claiming that letting Coles go was a brilliant move. Huh? Coles was going into his 4th year--was an absolute stud for us, and Boobway ponies up millions for a 7 year deal for Chrebet (over the hill at the time) INSTEAD OF Coles. Then, just to get Coles BACK Boobway trades Moss who makes the pro bowl for the Redskins. If you call that brilliant planning by the GM then we respectfully differ.
     
  8. SigmaXJet

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    exactly, we MADE THE PLAYOFFS! who cares what the Front Office does if it gets us in the post season
     
  9. Tony

    Tony Bipedal, Reformed

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    Martins deal was a restructering of the deal that Parcells put into place to get Martin from NE. I've explained this several times, and you keep ignoring it. Bradway had no choice but to put that deal into place. If he hadn't, that would have killed the team.
     
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  10. JetsIn2004

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    You keep going on about Martin, but if they did NOT extend him and simply CUT him they would not have been able to afford to field a team in 2002.

    Letting Coles go was a brilliant move. I'm sorry if you do not agree. We got a #1 back when noone in the world would have traded us a #1 for Coles. I've been saying that since the DAY it happened. Were the Jets going to sign him to a 35M dollar deal with 13M up front? No f'ing way. So they got a #1 for a guy who was going to leave the next year.
     
  11. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    GM you dont think farrior helped the steelers????Im not saying you could or should have signed him considering the circumstances at the time, but Farrior has been a hell of a LB for that team
     
  12. AllHackettsSuck

    AllHackettsSuck Well-Known Member

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    DeWayne Robertson... what a joke of a move THAT was.
     
  13. #28Martin

    #28Martin Well-Known Member

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    What? How the heck can he be blamed for that? Farrior wasn't half that player as a Jet as he became in Pittsburgh. That's extremely ridiculous.
     
  14. #28Martin

    #28Martin Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, a move every other GM in the league wanted to make. Teams were drooling over Robertson.
     

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