what reasons are there besides money or chance to win? Nightlife, cost of living (nope - this is money), schools?
It's not his job to evaluate talent???? UMMM - that's kinda his MAIN JOB. He Answers for ALL transactions the organization makes in regards to the product on the field. Pretty sure all the guys that played on those 2 teams were already in place save 3 - Braylon Edwards, Bart Scott and Jim Leonard and the following year Cromartie / Holmes - only the later 2 remain by the time the season starts... Gholston, Vlad, Hunter, letting J CO, Woody, T Rich go, voiding the team of any leadership, trading away draft picks like they were baseball cards leading to ZERO Depth, the shit show of Namdi last yr, shitty drafts past several years, his key guy is a guy the JETS FIRED as GM Bradway for personel issues... that all falls in his lap - its his job to MANAGE these things, as stated by his title.
Kendrick Ellis will be fine - that's not a bad pick - maybe a round to early, but not a bad pick, as long as he doesn't get deported. Does anyone realize that we have neglected the safety position - actually tried to draft someone to play there instead of chasing stop gaps - since Eric Smith was drafted... We also have yet to address what has been the main problem with the defense since before the Gholston pick, the pass rush - at least Mangini tried to address the problem
The idea that player don't want to sign with the Jets is silly IMO. Players weigh their own needs with what a team has to offer, and picks that team. I do think that they've lost that "place to be" vibe they had going into last year with the dysfunction they had. Now, they are just another team again.
Why was the topic I started moved - I don't want to discuss why free agents coaches don't want to come here - I wanted to discuss/ get input on our GM's performance... gotta be kidding me
Jesus... I feel among the few who wanted Nelson for a while now and all of a sudden in the last 2 days he became THE key to the Jets season.
Dude, really!? 1) EVERY GM makes mistakes... 2) Ducasse was an extremely bad fit in Callahan's complicated scheme and went into his 2nd year with no off-season. Too early to judge. 3) As much as I bashed Hunter in 2010 he did play well in the play-offs and it wasn't all that illogical to think he would've been able to keep it up the next season. 4) WTF is your problem with Ellis, a rookie with no off-season!? YOu're really grasping for arguments here... The only real mistake was how the S position was managed... other than that there was no glaring mistake.
The whole season is ruined because the Jets did not land an average free agent safety who signed with his former team for what was likely more money - a team with one of the top defenses in the NFL? You people need to find another team to root for and another sport to follow if this is your idea of a disaster.
1) He has final authority but I think the Jets FO works as a team. Tanny isn't stupid and I'm sure he values Clinkscales and Bradshaw's talent and skill analysis more than his own. I think he even said so on a couple of occasions. Of course his opinion on stuff like character, background, medical etc is important but in terms of football skills he relies on others. 2) J-CO asked to be released, T-rich was friggin' 39 and Woody blew out his achilles and weighs 300+ lbs at 33 yrs of age. What could have he done!? I think we got some pretty nice players for the picks we traded away didn't we? I'll wait on this season before evaluating the drafts (although I myself didn't like some picks) but I think the last one wasn't bad (minus Powell). Overall he's doing a good job... we haven't had a losing season in 4 seasons and have been to the AFC champ twice. Fans just need someone to bitch about...
Bart Scott is not being cut. We will use him this year and release him next year. You are too stupid to know how the NFL works. Players sign multi year, mega contracts and get released the very next year. Its part of the game. Hindsight is 20/20. You can't tell that one of the best LB from previous year will decline so rapidly that you have to consider trading him away just after a year. Maybe Patriots need a real coach. They traded for 85 and gave him almost $5mil a year for a few catches. They traded for Fat Albert, who stunk it up pretty badly. And they picked Jets trash thinking it was pure gold, giving him almost $5mil for his 10 plus tackles. How come BB didn't get fired?
Pretty sure the goal isn't to "not have a losing season". It just appears that there is no plan. The moves being made since last year are questionable at best. Just because someone asks to be released, doesn't mean you have to release them... J-Co was under contract I believe, and now the rumor mill has us entertaining bringing him back - why cut him in the first place then. Woody on one foot is better than Hunter and Ducasse - and if he was told he was being brought back, you don't think he would have actually rehabbed instead of sitting on the couch, getting a bagel and then a mic and hammering the Jets albeit subtly most times through out the year? T-Rich at 39 would have been a better option then Connor last year, he still struggled in pass protection, didn't open many holes, while T-Rich would have helped Mask some of the line issues with blitz pick-ups, his ability to catch the ball out of the back field and would have helped supply just some general leadership when it was apparent it was needed, plus he could still carry the rock when LT went down- last year was a cluster f%$^ from the top down that was set up by two years of mismanagement I agree last years draft was much better (also agree the Powell pick blows the mind). And, yes, we got some nice players for those draft picks- at what expense - the locker room, guaranteed money for a WR who is a headcase that your tied to now for 3 years - a CB who is flawed and unwilling to be physical/tackle and takes chances at the expense of the defense and its concepts. Giving up the draft picks also has left other holes - depth issues across the board, they haven't addressed the pass rush (4 years) or the safety position (5 years) in the draft with someone we can call home grown talent... Doing things in a win now mode mortgaging the future has just caught up with the organization in a big way...
