IMO one could do a much better job rebuilding the Jets passing game by upgrading the WR corps over the TE corps. While it is true that there isn't the same depth in the TE class as in the WR class, I think it is also true that more teams will be likely to be grabbing most of the topflight WR prospects in the 1st 2 rounds. If the Jets take Ebron in the first, by the time they pick in the 2nd, there may not be a single WR that is anywhere near bpa at that point. If the best WR prospect the Jets come out of this incredibly great draft is Bruce Ellington or another project like Martavis Bryant, I'm gonna be totally pissed. With a group of topflight WRs like Watkins, Evans, Lee, Mathews, Beckham Jr, Cooks and Adams, it would be a case of the Jets (Idzik) screwing the pooch to miss out on every single one of them. I think WRs are more important than TEs. I also think getting Beckham or Cooks and Niklas would help the team and passing game a LOT more than getting Ebron and Ellington or Bryant. Moncrief I like, Robinson less so, and Richardson not so much.
You also have to look at what teams need that are ahead of us after our first pick. A majority of those teams are not looking for a receiver in the first round. Because of this, I think there will be a lot of solid talent in the second to chose from. This is a VERY deep WR class. I don't think we will be in bad shape taking Ebron in the first and looking for a receiver in the second. Hell, I could see Idzik trading down depending on who's still on the board and getting a second 2nd round pick to boot.
Perhaps, but many, if not most NFL GMs don't draft by need, but rather by bpa and many of those WRs could be seen as bpas. In addition, we all have seen how once teams start drafting a certain position, other teams jump in and they go quickly. We've seen this happen with OLBs, OTs, CBs, QBs, and other positions. There are no guarantees.
This is very true and what I am afraid of. Thank God I'm not the one making the decisions in this one haha
Yeah but of those teams that draft before us who won't take a receiver in round 1, they could easily take a receiver before us in round 2, leaving us without much options. Rams, Jags, Browns, Raiders, Bucs, Bills, Lions, Giants, Steelers, and Ravens all could use a wideout and the board may not look so good for the Jets by round 2 if all these receivers do get taken.
Really! That makes two of us. The decisions Idzik makes this off season, will not only determine his future career path, but the Jets' fortunes over the next 5-8 years. He does well, his future for the forseeable future will be assured, as will the team's. If he screws the pooch, he probably doesn't get too many more offseasons and the team will stay mired in mediocrity. Even if he makes good to excellent picks, but they aren't what the media or most fans think he should have done, he could still get ripped. I guess that's why they pay him the big bucks. lol
A few things to keep in mind regarding this notion of the Jets missing out on an WR due to a run on them. 1. While many teams do go BPA..this is an incredibly deep draft at several positions...It's not as if the big board becomes 15 WRs in a row at a certain point. In other words..some teams would be doing the opposite of BPA..they'd be reaching. Teams also have other needs than just WR. Even if there is a run on WRs..mixed in to those picks will be Gms who decide to take advantage of that fact by taking a perceived higher graded player at another position. 2. There is always a premium on OL early. There just aren't alot of great OL that come into the league on a yearly basis. It seems like almost every team has a glaring need on their front 5 be it starter or depth. This is a very strong OL class..there's a decent sized clump of guys who's value is somewhere between 25-40. That should keep some of the Wrs on the board. 3. At some point there is gonna be a run on tall corners. Everybody wants to emulate what Seattle has done to defend the back shoulder deep throws.There is a laundry list of Tall,long corners w/ a ton of potential. So that's another position that should protect some of the WRs 4. See #1. In the remote chance we are left at our second pick without a WR..yes it will be frustrating. But all those teams reaching in front of us will force a VERY good player at another position down to our spot. This team does have other needs & Idzik is a BPA guy. We could be looking at a major steal
All your points are valid and good. Unless Idzik just totally screws the pooch, we're gonna come out of the draft with some excellent young prospects who should help improve the team. I just think it would be a shame with this great WR class to totally miss out on all the better prospects, especially since it's probably our #1 need. I'm sure some fear and frustration are affecting me as well, as for too many years there have been players I wanted the Jets to draft, but some other team got them and the players went on to become stars or very good players in the NFL. Hopefully, Idizk and his new scouting team will do a much better job than in previous years.
Amaro is one guy I absolutely do NOT want. Taking him @18 would be a colossal mistake in my opinion. I thought he looked slow on tape, even before the combine. He also looks small for a TE. He looks more like an H-back. I think Dallas Clark would be the best-case comparison / projection for him. His numbers are inflated because he played in a spread offense @ Texas Tech. When you watch his highlights, he's running wide open, basically uncovered. That's not gonna happen in the NFL. A receiving TE, especially one who doesn't have blazing speed like Vernon Davis, needs to be able to go up and win jump-balls, make contested catches, create separation in close quarters when guys are draped all over you or bearing down on you. To pass on Mike Evans, Marqise Lee, or Brandin Cooks, say, for Amaro would be insane. I'm on record: I don't believe in drafting TE's in the 1st round. Especially not in this draft, when you have an opportunity to secure a big-time playmaker the WR position. Give me Seferian-Jenkins in the 2nd or 3rd. This guy looks like an absolute beast with good speed and more in the Gronk / Jimmy Graham mold. Check out the athleticism and agility for a man his size. Not to mention he can catch the ball. He had 36 catches last year, and 8 went for TDs. 69 catches in 2012, 7 TDs. 2011, his freshman year: 41 catches, 6 TDs. He gives you an immediate red-zone threat, something Geno and this offense desperately needs.
Just saw this on NFL.com, which backs up what I've been saying. http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-pro-c...29717/NFL-Comparisons-Austin-Seferian-Jenkins Ebron had 3 TDs last year. Let some other team waste a 1st round pick on a TE. Sefarian-Jenkins has averaged 7 TDs per year over his 3 college seasons. If we can get this guy in the 3rd round, say, that would be huge. His draft stock may be falling because of his post-combine foot surgery. Which would make him even more attractive as a "buy low" option. Even if he doesn't work out, at least you didn't burn your 1st rounder.
While I would be very happy with Ebron, I'd rather have Evans, Cooks and maybe Beckham over Ebron, and then try to add ASJ, Niklas or Fiedorowics in the 2nd or 3rd round. I totally agree regarding Amaro. I don't like him at all and hope the Jets don't pick him. He doesn't look very smooth or athletic to me, and as you said, his numbers are inflated from playing in a spread offense. Heck, I'd rather have Crockett Gilmore or Marcel Jensen over Amaro.
In most cases taking a TE in the 1st round is like buying a really expensive hammer when all you really need is one that can pound nails. If you get a truly great TE out of the pick then you broke even on the deal. Most of the time you just wasted some value when you made the pick. That's not because the position is without value it's because the TE has to be good at a lot of different things to be really valuable. If all he can do well is catch the ball, well then your running game suffers. If he's an adequate receiver but nothing more but can block then the overall offense suffers some. If he's not a big plus at anything, well that's Dustin Keller and we saw where that went in the end. So if you can find the guy who can catch and block like Tony Gonzalez then go for it. But man he has to be the whole package because if something is missing, well you should have taken somebody in the 3rd round instead.
Since he's injured and just went under the knife and won't participate in his Pro-day, he should be available in Rd 3 with our early Buc's pick.
