He did draft a contributor (and maybe even a future star) in the 2nd round. Most likely won't make a huge difference this year, but we may all be thanking Tanny in a few years.
Mangold was drafted in 2006. D'Brick was drafted in 2006. Revis and Harris were drafted in 2007. Nobody of comparable quality since.
Wilkerson was a pretty damn good pick, IMO. He had a very good rookie season and there is no reason to think he won't continue to improve.
Then Keller late first round the following year (swing and a miss on Gholston before that). Then Sanchez the year after that (franchise quarterback). Gholston is the only colossal failure in his entire tenure.
He looks promising, but you need to wait 3 years to judge a draft. I think the lack of depth (which is often built through UDFAs and more unheralded FA signings) are a weakness of Tanny's game. While I don't think he drafts great, I don't think you can say he's bad at drafting.
Nobody that plays top 5 at their position or the best at their position... That's some high standards for draft picks that no team probably matches. Obviously Ghost is the big scar on his draft picks, but every GM has a few of those Too early to say anything on the 10,11 draft class. I agree with Giants fan that it takes a while to judge, would even say 3-5 years.
If Braylon lights it up in Seattle and our recieving corps struggles all season then bye bye Tanny. He seems very confident in our recievers, so lets see him prove it.
You think Tannenbaum's career depends upon a wide receiver that was on the team 2 years ago? The same receiver that was cut by a team looking for a wide receiver last year.
Speaking of receivers .... I do not remember seeing this posted prior and if it was I appologize. Football Outsiders seems to think the Jets cornered the market on Wide Receivers in the draft this year ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQotAI6SSb4&feature=plcp -
... not a chance ... ... we are very lucky to have both rex & mikey t ... ... if sanchez $h*t the bed this season he may be on the hot seat as our starter ... that's not going to happen though ... he is going to make a very reasonable 5-10% improvement on completion % and on turnovers ... our team is going to make post-season noise! ... l_j_r
But dont get me wrong, I LOVE the Hill pick. The guy played in an offense where he barely got the ball and it was a run first offense. He wont be bitching when he doesnt get the ball like a lot of reciever, because he is so used to it.
Tannenbaum is Good! Now, if he had multiple contracts with dead money and a prolonged period of Loosing , then Yes. Right now and for the foreseeable future he's pretty safe. I just Hope he cultivates the players we have rather then purging them and we end up seeing them on others teams having success.
This is awesome! I think it deserves its own thread. Stephen Hill = number 1 using this algorithm. Jordan White = number 3. (the last wr drafted, btw...) both above Blackmon. very interesting.
Guys, I liked Braylon a lot when he was here, but some of you guys need to relax the man-love. I felt a much greater loss at the WR position when we lost Coles, and even greater loss when we lost Santana Moss to get Coles back. I understand that our WR corps isn't the greatest at the moment, but I'd rather have Hill and Kerley get some playing time than having us try to wrangle another year out of a Braylon or a Plax or yet another old guy who we'd get a year or two out of.
The Jets are a little bit too in-grown at this point on the management side. There are too many people who've been with the team for a decade or more without a great team ever coming out of that. It may be Woody Johnson's management style to promote continuity however in this case the continuity hasn't been top-tier so it's probably time for a change. You can't make a leap forward without blowing up the culture in my opinion. That's what Hess did with Parcells. I think Woody is going to have to do it again if he really wants that topflight teams that competes well with the Giants in the NY market.
The converse of this, in my opinion is that the roster isn't in-grown enough. The Jets are too quick to ship young players off, and too quick to jump on every free agent that comes along.
I agree with the others who say it's too early. He was only a rookie last season. Keller is nothing special. He's a "journeyman". The Jets are still waiting for Sanchez to "step up". You might want to check out what other "franchise QBs" had done by the time they got 50+ yards. Greene is a mediocre RB and Slauson a mediocre OG. Wilson doesn't seem to be much more than a nickel corner and Ducasse can't crack the starting OL when his competition is Slauson. If either becomes a starter this year, it will likely be because the guy ahead of him got hurt. The problem is that the Jets haven't even come close. How about guys who make the ProBowl or could start on most other NFL teams? Most of the Jets picks after 2007 wouldn't. Look at Baltimore since 2008: Joe Flacco, Ray Rice, Michael Oher, Torrey Smith. Pitt since 2008: Rashard Mendenhall, Mike Wallace, Antonio Brown, Maurkise Pouncey ... A team that expects to be a playoff contender can't afford to go three drafts in a row with only journeymen to show for them.