Two first round picks. Jay Cutler instead of Lam Jones and Blair Thomas. Jay Cutler instead of Gholston and Bryan Thomas. Jay Cutler instead of Dwayne Robertson. Jay Cutler instead of Johny Mitchell and Dave Cadigan. Jay Cutler instead of Roger Vick and Mike Haight. Jay Cutler instead of Lee White and Carl Barzilaskus. Jay Cutler instead of Steve Tannen and Dave Foley. Gotta love those first round picks.
If you cherry pick all the worst ones. Tannenbaum has a pretty good record so far except for Gholston, who still has a chance to be good.
Past performance is not a guarantee of future returns. The ironic part of your post is Tannenbaum could have moved down and gotten Cutler and another pick for a first during his first draft. While we got a good first round pick we apparently blew round 2 and 3 which is why he is looking to get Cutler now.
I'd rather go with a guy that IS good rather then 2 picks that have a chance at being good. Besides, with FA'cy we can sign whoever we need to upgrade anyway. This whole build through the draft crap is just that, CRAP. If a guy is good he's good. It doesn't matter if you got him from Bumfuk State or some NFL team.
Rex Ryan is a decendant of Budy Ryan. Budy Ryan and Rex know the formula for the Jets winning a SB because one was part of the formula and the other one witnessed it first hand. A fast attacking D coupled with a good running game and a QB who could stretch the field under pressure and make big plays. Defense and running the ball are best teamed with a down field passing attack not a dink and dunk game manager.:wink:
In reality, we don't have a system yet and I would hope that Schottenheimer creates a system to match the skills of his QB.
I'd trade this years first rounder and a conditional 2010 first rounder as well. If Cutler stayed healthy, took 90% of the snaps, and led us to the playoffs or AFC championship game, I'd be fucking crazy to not trade an extra first rounder.
Like he did for Favre last season. I'm pretty confident that if we get Cutler we will go the same way, costly INT's trying to fit the ball into impossible gaps. Hopefully I'm wrong, lets see how it plays out.
I'm also getting pretty sick of hearing "don't mortgage the future for Cutler." What future? With what quarterback? I don't want a super bowl championship in the future, I want one RIGHT FUCKING NOW.
But they do have Cotchery, Keller, Clowney, Stuckey & Leon. Also they may get a Nicks or Britt in the 2nd or a Robiske in the 3rd & be set. By the way when Brady won his 3 bowls who did he have to throw to?
Hopefully if we get Cutler it will be before mini camp and he won't have to let him run his O out of the spread.
Thank you. As I said in an earlier post, if David Harris a 1 and 2 is the cost then this franchise should not allow a good but not great linebacker come in between of getting themselves a QB that they can build around.
Favre could no longer make the throws all the time. I don't know if that was only because of the injury or because he just didn't want to take any more hits but a lot of those balls he threw up were impossible for the receiver to catch. I would hope Cutler still has the same arm he had last year.
Switch Keller to a WR,draft Britt in round 2 add a TE and you may be onto something. The JETS are trading for a proven QB who can succesfully start in the NFL. The JETS have spent way too much to go into the season with an unproven QB. And besides draft picks are "what ifs". You guys officially convinced me. Get Cutler DAMMIT.
How Dare you sir!!!! How dare you introduce common sense to the board!!! Blasphamy I say!!! Blasphamy!!!
The current FO doesn't know any other operating mode than the one they've been in the last couple of years. They trade to acquire value and generally treat draft picks as risky propositions - which of course they are, however you just need to accept that fact and take risks with them Generally speaking the NFL FO's that just run the numbers and take the best person available in the draft have been more successful than the people who hop all over the place trying to consolidate value. At the low end of that scale you have the Redskins and the Jets neither of whom have put together any consistency at all in this decade because they're too busy trying to get rich quick to put any effort into just building a good deep team. At the high end of the scale you have the Patriots and the Colts, who just keep assembling talent the old-fashioned way and build great teams. In the middle you have the Chargers and the Cowboys who are wildly erratic in talent acquisition and spike high in the standings before they inevitably come back to earth when a hasty decision bites them in the ass. Both of those franchises treat their draft process with respect though so the floor is a lot higher than it is for the Redskins and Jets.
It really depends on what we have at QB. The problem that many are discounting is that we are in the ring for Cutler shows that there really isn't a lot of confidence in what we have. This is the reason we went into last season with a QB competition and are going into this year with a QB competition. We don't have a starting QB. Hopefully the guys will prove management wrong but management is signaling a total lack of confidence in the position by going after Cuter. I'm not going to deny that I love Cutlers skills and would love to have him if his head is on straight but I would hate to make this move and give away real value if there was real belief in what we have. I think there isn't.
Why is it a lack of confidence, how about it's flat out just a chance to get the best player for the position??? I think you are reading to far between the lines.
