Tajh Boyd Blows

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  1. joe

    joe Well-Known Member

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    You played against Lincoln? If I may ask, for what school?
     
  2. legler82

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    Albertus Magnus Bardonia, NY. They spanked us. Lincoln had a WR that was really good too; can't remember his name. Greene played QB and CB; he put no effort playing the latter, not that it mattered.
     
  3. Bellows1

    Bellows1 Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps, but comparing him to a late rounder playing against a 3rd string D and not doing well seems a fair comparison. No? I know it's hind sight, but we're talking about potential at a desperate position of need vs. A friend of a friend.
    It's possible Rex saw something in Boyd that no other team saw or it could just be a why not gamble to replace Vick next season. Either way, it's not costing us anything, he may improve with help.
     
  4. Cman69

    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Here's a question for the group: Why does Rex dislike Simms so much? Seems no matter what Simms does on the field, he's barely on the roster. To draft a player on the recommendation of your Son kinda speaks volumes to how much they really value Matt Simms.
     
  5. Ralebird

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    It doesn't look like he dislikes Simms at all. Recognizing a player's limited talents and abilities does not equal disliking him.
     
  6. Cman69

    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    It does when you bring in someone not even recommended by your staff scouts to compete. That's the equivalent of someone being brought in off the street to compete with a skilled worker for their job. Most would view that as an insult. At the very least, it shows just how well thought of (or not) you are.

    I know folks hate anyone that questions the moves or motives of Rex but this situation is kinda obvious. Rex for whatever reason, doesn't care for Matt Simms. In the real world, shit like this happens. I wonder if its the Simms name (Giants Legacy) that's feeding into this. Who knows man..
     
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  7. Ralebird

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    It amazes me that so many guys here so frequently get into the "hate" and "dislike" kind of discussion when there is nothing that personal about making a business decision. It makes me wonder how much business experience many of the writers have.
     
  8. Cman69

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    If Rex wasn't so emotional about almost everything he does coaching wise, we wouldn't be so quick to attribute things like this to an emotional response. Rex wears his heart on his sleeves. He's emotionally vested in everything he's associated with. Perhaps that's good, perhaps not.

    Belichek OTOH, could be "Spock" compared to Rex being "McCoy" to use a Star Trek analogy. I'm not saying one is better than the other, but the results are really hard to argue with.

    I dunno what the deal is with Simms and Rex, but it won't end well for Simms. I'd bet next month's mortgage payment on it.
     
  9. TonyMaC

    TonyMaC Well-Known Member

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    this is getting blown out of proportion, what is this high school bullshit? Rex doesn't like Simms based on what exactly? drafting another QB? what is Simms this infallible beast of a backup so he can't be challenged by a moderately successful college QB drafted in the later rounds?

    this is a third string QB competition, if all holds Simms will get the job, and Boyd will wind up on the practice squad. If Boyd lights it up his next opportunity (doubtful) and Simms throws two picks, they'll keep Boyd. Because its a business.

    There is nothing suggesting that Rex doesn't like Simms, and no he won't just pick Boyd because he's friends with his son.
     
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    There's not enough time left in the universe to debate with a Rex guy about anything Rex does so before you go there, I'm a hater, Rex is perfect and everything he does is golden.

    Now that we got the usual kowtowing to Rex out of the way, Rex wouldn't have even looked at Boyd if it wasn't for his Son at Clemson but lets just ignore that. Probably happens every draft. Think about it. His KID recommended Boyd, not the scouting dept. Cmon man.

    In a era when we're trying to build depth thru the draft, even a Rexaholic should be questioning the Boyd pick. If Simms was in good standing, why throw a pick away on Boyd? It just doesn't make any sense unless of course, you have unwavering faith in Rex's well known ability to judge Qb talent.
     
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  11. Geno007

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    Where a link that Rex picked Boyd? Not Idzik
     
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    wait, whoa, don't categorize me. I'm not abut to call you a hater, I'm not a "rexaholic" (I LIKE him as the jets coach but I'm not blind to his flaws) I'm just wondering what makes us think theres something personal about this 3rd QB competition.

    the Boyd draft pick was likely a subject of some semblance of nepotism… it was also based on his having some actual talent that could be translated to the pros in some capacity, but sure I'll concede the personal connection probably separated HIM from the OTHER lower round/undrafted QB's.

    I just don't think Rex will make things personal and decide to pick Boyd over Simms if the latter is doing better than the former (and he is) and I don't know why we're assuming that he personally dislikes Simms. Thats my confusion, whats telling us he's made up his mind from the start and that he hates the cut of Simms jib or something? Its baseless.
     
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    Let me get back to you on that one Geno. It's been out there for quite some time that Rex's kid recommended Boyd from their days at Clemson and Rex signed off on it.
     
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    He was a 7th round pick in a 12 pick draft. Who cares how they decided to take him and why are we pissed that he sucks? 7th round qb's usually do.but you pick them to turn over the bottom of the depth chart. Anything they give more than that is gravy
     
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    Doesn't Idzik get the final say? Not Rex?
     
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    Taj Boyd will be cut for sure,there's no chance he makes the team.Maybe the practice squad but not the final 53.Simms will be third string
     
  17. Greenday4537

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    Has he played like crap? Yea. But it's a late 7th round pick. Who gives a crap? How many 7th round picks actually end up having a long, successful career?

    Either he plays like crap, then he ends up like pretty much every other 7th round pick. Or he plays well, and then exceeds expectations.
     
  18. Turbocharged23

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    Neither Simms not Boyd will be on the roster. We need the spots for linebacker, cornerback or a wide receiver
     
  19. TonyMaC

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    thats more of a possibility than I would have thought earlier this year. there are some skill position players making a case for themselves, and they may provide more value tot he team than either QB.

    Of course that means Boyd would sort of be our QB3, seeing as how he's the one thats PS eligible and could be activated if Vick or Smith went down… or would Simms still be available through FA? I can see him getting a job someplace else.
     
  20. Cman69

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    Here's some information on this Geno..

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f...ahoma-wr-jalen-saunders-4th-article-1.1787303

    Well, that's not the entire article but for the most part, validates how Boyd wound up drafted. I still see it as a backhanded slap at Matt Simms that this guy with known issues was even drafted to challenge for the #3 Qb spot. 7th round pick or not.
     

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